Alaskas First CF Moto 650nk

**alaskacf** · 07-09-2014, 12:45 AM

Is that 70hp at the wheel? Is there anything I can do (keeping it naturally aspirated) to raise that number. I feel like that might be asking alot of that P-Twin...

**ZMC888** · 07-09-2014, 07:00 AM

Yep, think the 70 hp is at the rear wheel.

Not sure if there is much you can really do, try a Ninja 650 muffler and a different air filter, but you can't remap the ECU, so I think you are stuck with it like that maybe a couple of hp if any. putting it on a diet might actually be the best option.

**alaskacf** · 07-09-2014, 04:50 PM

So not to sound like a total cherry...whats the diet thing? I know I need to go on a diet and that will help a bit, but I'm American and I love horrible foods!!

**prince666** · 07-09-2014, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by alaskacf

So not to sound like a total cherry...whats the diet thing? I know I need to go on a diet and that will help a bit, but I'm American and I love horrible foods!!

Not sure if the English teacher made a mistake !! "Diet" or did he mean to say
"Dyno"

**bikerdoc** · 07-09-2014, 11:12 PM

OK, I'll put on the 'black hat' (DeBono)....

Diet in the context could also be valid and if applied to the bike, can mean simply that one way to improve power to weight ratio of the bike is to remove superfluous items from the bike not critical to its function, so as to lighten it. Thereby one improves its power to weight ratio, something that many racing teams attempt to do, by removing non essential and non critical parts from race vehicles in pursuit of the lightest weight possible.

Just sayin... right time to change coloured hats.... now lets see, which colour...

YMMV

Back to regular programming.

**ZMC888** · 07-09-2014, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by bikerdoc

OK, I'll put on the 'black hat' (DeBono)....

Diet in the context could also be valid and if applied to the bike, can mean simply that one way to improve power to weight ratio of the bike is to remove superfluous items from the bike not critical to its function, so as to lighten it. Thereby one improves its power to weight ratio, something that many racing teams attempt to do, by removing non essential and non critical parts from race vehicles in pursuit of the lightest weight possible.

Just sayin... right time to change coloured hats.... now lets see, which colour...

YMMV

Back to regular programming.

Haha, exactly what I meant!

**prince666** · 07-10-2014, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by ZMC888

Haha, exactly what I meant!

Sorry my mistake
But to lose 10 kg of a NK bike would be dam
Hard IMO that why is called a NK, would it be more easy
For the rider to lose 10 kg hehehe

**ZMC888** · 07-10-2014, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by prince666

Sorry my mistake
But to lose 10 kg of a NK bike would be dam
Hard IMO that why is called a NK, would it be more easy
For the rider to lose 10 kg hehehe

Not that hard, actually. Heavy muffler exchanged for Ninja 650 aftermarket and cat removed = at least 5kg, passenger pegs and grab rails 1-2kg, then you have to start using some imagination....like rear-sets 1kg, clip-on air pods 1kg. Or silly expense like Renthal bar 200 grams etc

**bikerdoc** · 07-10-2014, 01:38 AM

Spot on with the rear exhaust and especially the catalytic converter (collector box slung underside) - when I dropped that from under the 650TR I was surprised just how much that in itself weighed, though I didn't put it on a set of weighing scales, it must have been an easy 5kg as dedduced from my 'seat of the pants' biceps test. And if I may, humour me a little, - actually it is often far easier to find ways to reduce weight on a motorcycle than it would likely be for the rider to loose 10kg's - without significant and concerted effort, dedication and focus. Just sayin...

right where were we, oh yeah, those friggin coloured DeBono hats... *scratches head*

**prince666** · 07-10-2014, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by bikerdoc

Spot on with the rear exhaust and especially the catalytic converter (collector box slung underside) - when I dropped that from under the 650TR I was surprised just how much that in itself weighed, though I didn't put it on a set of weighing scales, it must have been an easy 5kg as dedduced from my 'seat of the pants' biceps test. And if I may, humour me a little, - actually it is often far easier to find ways to reduce weight on a motorcycle than it would likely be for the rider to loose 10kg's - without significant and concerted effort, dedication and focus. Just sayin...

right where were we, oh yeah, those friggin coloured DeBono hats... *scratches head*

Sure about people weight lost ! When you see me last time in Thailand I was 92/95 kg in 3 weeks getting back to china and on the day I left Hainan Was down to 76 kg nearly 20 kg off now I did tell you I hate Chinese food lol
Now back up to 80/81 with food I like . Now I can put on some more KG because the YBR has more power until I find out how much will depend on how much kg goes back on the tum !