Motorcycle Show Warsaw Poland 2015

[beniamin82]

Romet Cafe is Dafier. I do not found any website. Maybe they copy hanway? And the engine is 154fmi OHV. This is very odd.

About junak Evo i.will have information in a week. There is a motorshow in poznań in Poland this weekend and i have there a spy...

[Zorge]

Not necessarily. God knows who is who in Chinese motorcycle components industry. Аccording to an article which I read a few years ago, "modus operandi" of small Chinese factories is like that: first factory makes frames and swap them with another factory that makes wheels, then the third, which makes fuel tanks and plastic parts. I think you see my point.

German Wiki about Dafier-puffier:

Die Jiangsu Dafier Motorcycle Co., Ltd. (Handelsmarke Dafier) ist ein chinesischer Motorradhersteller mit Sitz in Changzhou in der Provinz Jiangsu.

Das Unternehmen wurde im Jahr 2002 als Gemeinschaftsunternehmen mit der Qingqi-Gruppe gegründet. Das Kapital beträgt 200 Millionen Renminbi (rund 20 Mio. €), jährlich produziert die Firma 200.000 Motorräder, 100.000 Motoren und 300.000 Rahmen, Gussformen und Leuchten.

Für den europäischen Markt stellt Dafier Motorroller mit 50, 110 und 125 cm³ sowie Motorräder mit 125 cm³ her. Dabei handelt es sich vor allem um Fahrzeuge im unteren Preissegment, die mit den Modellen anderer Hersteller baugleich sind.

Looks like just one more assembly plant.

Why did they choose this OHV engine for "Ogar Caffe" or any other "reasonably priced" bike? Simply - because it was the cheapest. Here's a link for an article about "engine's mainstream" on Chinese motorcycles - http://moto-magazine.ru/technics/brand/parad_klonov/. Their prices were also mentioned.

[MJH]

I would have thought that The Romet CRS 125 was out of Hanway? Daifer is affiliated with Qingqi and so is Hanway. Also the Lexmoto LSM may have been out of Hanway? Both stopped selling them not sure why, Hanway is an OEM they make the bikes to customer specs. If Romet is buying them through Daifer they are sourced out of the same or even whatever production is available. Daifer is like a trading company.

[Kennon]

I know Generic the Austrian brand at joint venture with QJ as QJ gets design input and help with engine development and with that Generic got a manufacturing facility to produce bikes for the EU

[beniamin82]

Junak must have struck a deal with China South Group?

The NK 125 is made by
XGJAO, it has Zongshen 125cc OHC with a balance shaft.

I found a photo from ZIPP, is a OHV...
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[Kennon]

The NK 125 in the UK is sold as the AJS TN125 I've seen one so far not a bad looking bike,
http://www.ajsmotorcycles.co.uk/new_AJS/docs/main.htm

[MJH]

http://www.zipp.pl/

There is a few images ZIPP VZ-3

[beniamin82]

It is difficult to tell who is the OEM for each, however if you have the VIN then not so hard.
The 127 IMO is made by ZHEN

I have it in my garage till 20.08.15. According to WMI it is a Fosti (LB5)

[MJH]

Fosti and ZHEN are the same manufacturer, zhongneng

They are a very big exporter of scooters, allot of those scooters are design copies of other manufactures. They were thrown out of the Italian Trade show for bringing in copies. They are pretty well organized, but there is some questions about quality control, and allot of what they sell may look good cosmetically but is based on old technology and may not even be assembled very well. We know this because they sell boat loads of them in North America and it’s not hard to find owners with issues, such as excessive vibrations, overheating etc.
The model that you have is their DBR and it was intended to have the CB250 Zongshen engine, it has fatter tires on 17” rims and a mono shock rear suspension. With that configuration it be a decent budget bike, without the 17hp engine it would likely be less decent? The design of that model is their own, it’s not a copy of anything else directly.

[MJH]

what is up with Leonart?
They offer a Piaggio 125cc DOHC 4-valve? 15CV
but the price?

15,900.00 PLN

=

4,262.84 USD

http://www.leonartmotors.com/fdaytona.html

Leonart historically utilized Lifeng (Regal Raptor) as its OEM, they presented a model in 2012 they called a Pilder. An odd design with a single sided swing-arm and driven by a Piaggio DOHC water cooled 125cc.