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  1. #21 Re: Hisun Vetturino a Chinese Ninja 250R? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennon View Post
    The Mz 125 is a interesting engine it was updated a few times I remember a few years ago it had a new valve system developed and was placed in a Blata 125 bike under the Mz name. speak for yourself when I had a 125 in 2011 it was a Yamaha engine with a Keihin carb when the air restriction and ECU restriction taken out it produced 20bhp and when I big bored it the power was up to 26bhp.

    Mz filed for bankruptcy a few years ago the market in Europe wasn't ready for the electric scooters they were producing and the development costs they were undertaken ultimately killed the company yet again Ideally if it was taken under BMW as a cheaper marque it could do well.
    There is a patent on the valve train.
    http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080245325
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    There is a patent on the valve train.
    http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080245325
    Based off the RT125...



    MZ manufactured a line of 125 cc four-stroke motorcycles using an engine that was designed in-house. The MZ 125 produces 15 bhp (11 kW) and nearly 10 lb·ft (14 N·m) of torque. It is a liquid-cooled, dual-overhead-cam design with four valves, high-voltage electronic ignition and an 11,000 rpm ignition cut-off. This engine was used in four models, all of which share a common frame. The frame is a tube-steel backbone with the engine as a stressed bottom member. Differences in the suspension, fascia, gearing, and equipment make the four models relatively distinct, despite the shared platform. All four bikes feature a six-speed transmission and dual disc brakes.
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    The base for the water cooled with a variable timing head, is the RT 125cc DOHC that is rated at 11hp.
    That means there are two engine that share allot of components. I wonder what the cost would be to acquire them? That Blata frame is really good too and they seem to be hardly utilizing it.
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    I know word in English for this valvetrain - over-engineered.

    Worm gear!? What it is, an hommage to old "Sunbeam" S7?

    Jokers...
    Ask me nothing - I DO NOT speak english. Really...
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    The Blata was a nice bike if under powered with the Czech designed AC engine I was tempted to get one back when I was 16/17 in the end when I got round to buying a 125 supermoto the reviews had killed them off from the UK market place.
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    Back to a Kawaki looking bike it seems like Jonway have copied the Ninja 250R/300R right down to the chassis but what looks to be a CB 350cc twin engine, now if this had the Hisun 250 would be nigh on identical. If made with the Hisun engine could be like the CFmoto 650NK a cheaper version of a Kawasaki bike and be used for cheaper track use.
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  7. #27 Re: Hisun Vetturino a Chinese Ninja 250R? 
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    Blue Collar Bobbers is offering kit to convert a Ninja 250, great idea.
    Here is a Link to them and their image gallery...

    The complete kit cost only $1,400.00...

    What is impressive is that they had a new housing manufactured of molded plastic for the instrument cluster, so you reuse the internal parts and wiring of the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    Blue Collar Bobbers is offering kit to convert a Ninja 250, great idea.
    Here is a Link to them and their image gallery...

    The complete kit cost only $1,400.00...

    What is impressive is that they had a new housing manufactured of molded plastic for the instrument cluster, so you reuse the internal parts and wiring of the original.
    It does look good and tidy for a kit.
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    Yeah they did a real good job, the kits come with videos that take you through it step by step.

    If I had the capital I would contract Hisun to make a poor man’s version of the BMW R9. Based on the 2007 Kawasaki 250 Ninja.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    Yeah they did a real good job, the kits come with videos that take you through it step by step.

    If I had the capital I would contract Hisun to make a poor man’s version of the BMW R9. Based on the 2007 Kawasaki 250 Ninja.
    Maybe a value for money kit rather than a poor man's version.
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