Poland 2016 news...

[beniamin82]

Where's that "jianshe Group" claim?

http://www.guoweimotor.com/en/company.asp

[MJH]

http://www.guoweimotor.com/en/company.asp

I noticed that too, who knows the whole associating with and without any affiliation is very common in China.

Another issue is that some Chinese manufactures use other Chinese manufacturers as an OEM, the primary sells a certain model and outsources that production to the secondary. That secondary also could be an OEM for another manufacturer, which also sells it under three of its own brand names. So the source of a CG125 could be one factory that is an OEM for others that are assigning it multiple names, they may or may not follow the convention, for example if Loncin contracts another factory does it use its own WMI or do they use the WMI of the actual factory? The later should be used since the purpose is to be able to track back to the source. I really doubt that Loncin would contract for the production with a company that is on the other side of the country. I am not sure if Loncin offers a CG125 that is so close to the original, but since they sell so many it is possible.
I am not saying this is a Loncin, more that not all Loncins are made in the same factory and not all are made to the same standards. I am only using Loncin as an example. Overstating production could be a matter of them counting production that they can buy out of other factories, in that some may be Hahaha counted thrice?

Loncin sells a model called an LX125-71, it is entirely possible they outsource the production of those to another factory, but there are some difference in this model and theirs.

[beniamin82]

Any clues? New Romet offerings, price about 5000PLN = 1313$
They write that has an 125 ccm OHV engine with 15HP (??)




zxt.jpg

Riddle solved.
All the three models WMI is LB5. Fosti...

Does Fosti have any busines conations with ZNEN?

[MJH]

Fosti is in Guangdong and ZNEN is in Zhejiang, separate, however I believe that they share production.

Fosti makes the motorcycles, which are also branded ZNEN.

http://zhongneng.en.alibaba.com/prod..._sale_CBF.html

[MJH]

Let’s use Suzuki for an example, they have a partner in order to gain the partner they offer a model to the partner to make and sell under its brand, then you have two models one Suzuki and one the other brand. The other brand may need more then they can make so they contract a third to make them, in exchange they can sell them as well, under a third brand, now you have real Suzuki, second brand Suzuki, also third and forth….

Now one company makes its own new model, they get orders beyond capacity so they hire another company to fill the production gap, in exchange they may make it under its own brand name.

This is because they have to have enough of an order to justify production, half for you and half for me, the costs of production are linear they drop as unit number are increasing. At capacity is ideal for cost minimization. So if they go beyond capacity they outsource.

[MJH]

Junak has a few new models, one is a 125cc twin.

M11

[MJH]

Romet is importing the Daelim models and branded them as RMT.
It is not entirely clear where these are manufactured as Shineray is an OEM for Daelim.
The Roadwin 125R has a water cooled DOHC 4valve engine, at the A1 Limit @15 hp.
A RMT Roadwin 125R in Poland costs

14,999.00 PLN

=

3,795.49 USD

A Dailem Roadwin in Spain costs

2,799.00 EUR

=

3,121.09 USD

Shineray does not offer the DOHC 125 model.

The last version Shineray released in China is this model...250cc DOHC.

16,300.00 CNY

=

2,487.41 USD

[MJH]

Shineray also makes the Daystar.

[Zorge]

Shineray also makes the Daystar.

Holly cow! This has quite elaborated front sprocket cover.