EF Motors - new player?

[Zorge]

So...

This "Electro Force Motors" (http://www.electroforcemotors.com/) introduced some, at least on paper, E-motorcycles which can very easily serve as commuter bikes. Range is up to 150 km, max power up to 15 hp (hub motor), torque up to 70 Nm, Li-Ion 5,4 kWh battery, charging time 8 hours (half that time with fast charger), weight is 150 kilos. They came with 2 year warranty and price varies from 25k to 31k RMB.

And... unfortunately, EFM "borrowed" design from quater-of-a-liter CBR.

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How much Chinese E-motorcycles we saw so far?

I remember some "Baiduo" or "Beiduo"...

[moilami]

Dunno but I am observing development of these electric motorcycles. Electricity is good, say, electric guitar and so called electric cigarette. Those who have driven with electric motorcycles has praised them. I am sure I will miss two stroke sounds and quirks, but I can tolerate that if I get a motorcycle which is silent, as it will be like a magificent bicycle then. Also running costs can be rather low with electrical bikes, especially after governments tax a hell on combustion engines.

[ShuBen]

On short distance here in China millions of people use E-power. That seems to work well.
But just these days I read a travel report of a German guy using a BMW C Evolution E scooter to go around in Spain.
That brought everything back to reality. He equipped the passenger seat with a 25kg gasoline power generator to avoid the total stop. He spend a lot of time on cafes, gas stations etc to recharge.
Once he had to stop in the middle of nowhere and use the generator for recharging. It took him 8h to fully load the Accu.

His conclusion:
After that experience he learns to value each drop of gasoline because of its energy content.

My conclusion: let the lady ride E scooter and myself stay with gas at first

[Oneway]

E-Bikes in China should be classed as silent WMD's. I see them everyday blasting around town, ignoring every stop sign and traffic light and riding everywhere that they feel like. I do not know anyone who has had one for more than a month who has not had at least one minor accident and a few that have had serious ones in a few days. No license or training required to ride one, just get off your pushbike and jump onto something that will do 60kph and blast through the dark night dressed all in black with your lights off to save power. i have been hit from behind or sideswiped by e-bikes whilst i was walking on the footpath. They do not use their lights at night because they do not want to waste power and you cannot hear them coming. I was "T" boned by one a few years ago. i was going through a green light and he went through a red one and rode straight into the side of my car. The police man asked me to pay 200rmb compensation for the damage to his e-bike which i refused and after almost two hours arguing the policemen let him go without paying anything to repair my door. I went to the station to make an official complaint about what had happened, and just as i expected would happen to a complaint from a lowai, it disappeared down a black hole never to be seen again. This says more about the local police than it does about e-bikes, but for as long as they are allowed to flout the law they are just plain dangerous. They should be fitted with lights in the factory that cannot be turned off and a system that beeps every few seconds so you can at least hear then coming and have a chance to dive out of the way.
E-bikes, silent killers and the worst invention ever to give to a Chinese rider who neither understands or cares about the rules of the road. China tried the one child policy to reduce the population but it did not work. not to worry, now they have e-bikes, a much more effective tool for population control.

[moilami]

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[englishman in china]

Oneway has it spot on. These e-bikes are a silent menace and for some reason their riders think it perfectly acceptable to ride them on the pavements too. Here in Chongqing there are very few (although I have one which was given to me by Yadea to test ride) so I really notice them when I go to Chengdu and other cities where these things swarm. I've got to add, there's nothing wrong with e-bikes and scooters, just the riders.