Shineray X1 - mixed CG engine to bike?!

**MJH** · 03-06-2016, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by NZBrakelathes

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Current engine and the rest is shineray X1

Is there any difference in stator flywheel pick up that relates to CDI? That's the main question now
As for engine cc and carb I'll tackle that later

Its a Zongshen pushrod 150cc,

it uses these types of CDI

**humanbeing** · 03-06-2016, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by MJH

Its a Zongshen pushrod 150cc,

it uses these types of CDI

"kick" only = ("dry" stator) as Honda CG125M (KYO/ KCS) ie. 花猫/ 幸福 (round) CDI is more suitable

The commonest "CG" (kick & electric) in mainland China is based on Taiwanese maker (square CDI / "wet" stator)

**NZBrakelathes** · 03-06-2016, 02:25 PM

So is the stator and pick up the same ? I've not got any idea yet
Does the motor fitted to it have the same pick up and stator as to what the Shineray should have?
This is my question

**NZBrakelathes** · 03-06-2016, 02:26 PM

The motor fitted - what cc is it?
Just yes or no answers please, to much info is confusing

**NZBrakelathes** · 03-06-2016, 02:31 PM

Let me try put it simply
I'm not changing CDI I'm not making any changes to the Shineray original bike
My question all relates to the stator or pick up or flywheel on the motor fitted
Is that the same as what would have been in the Shineray motor? Yea or no? If no then what should I have in it? If yes it's the same I'll need to explore other issues.

**NZBrakelathes** · 03-06-2016, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by humanbeing

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CG = 20mm http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...uthorid=217223 & ~ 20deg http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...=217223&page=2
CB's deg is little bit different (curve & angle is close enough in daily use, so guys said they're interchangeable)

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CDI cames in plain old "fixed" & "adv" . Just buy the dc-cdi (adv. version) & forget those hassle...

Is my stator, Hall effect or flywheel different from what the original Shineray had? Or are these parts the same and or no effect assuming there condition is good?

**MJH** · 03-06-2016, 11:14 PM

The engine you have now is a Zongshen CG150 and it should use the common square six pin CDI. The Shineray XY150GY would have had that type CDI. If you tested everything else and working correctly you will need a CDI of this common type and it may need to be replaced.

**NZBrakelathes** · 03-07-2016, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by MJH

The engine you have now is a Zongshen CG150 and it should use the common square six pin CDI. The Shineray XY150GY would have had that type CDI. If you tested everything else and working correctly you will need a CDI of this common type and it may need to be replaced.

Ok so j need to replace the stator and hall sensor to go back to the correct style for the Shinetay then. The bike runs real bad and seems timing is out but I don't have a timing light to check it.
I've heard people interchange the CDIs square type to round type yet I thought they are different
I can't think why the hell sensor might be different in either but from your statement there must be something?!
I want to keep electrics the same as what the Shineray should have in order to keep the bike standard - seems simpler in the long run.
So it seems I need to replace stator and gall sensor to the Round type CDI which is what the Shineray had originally

**NZBrakelathes** · 03-07-2016, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by MJH

The engine you have now is a Zongshen CG150 and it should use the common square six pin CDI. The Shineray XY150GY would have had that type CDI. If you tested everything else and working correctly you will need a CDI of this common type and it may need to be replaced.

What you showed me is called the round style CDI
Seems everyone's info doesn't yet answer if I need to replace the stator and hall sensor to match what the Shineray had originally

**NZBrakelathes** · 03-07-2016, 03:30 PM

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What a mess I found!
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Blue with white to green has 143.5 ohms resistance it's not kilo ohms setting
Pink to yellow is around 0.9 ohms
I looked online but a little unclear to how to test and correct values but did read 0.9ohms is ok on something
Can anyone confirm that these values are good or bad?
Also the black with red trace isn't connected and that from what I looked on a square plug loom is a CDI wire or is it a rev counter wire? The Shineray doesn't have a rev counter