Atomik Rogue will not start

[Geoffo]

From the pluser, we can guess
180 crank -3 wire

Stock wire hardness obviously for 2 CDI
360 crank -2 wire

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Even it's a 360 crank, there's a streetwise tirck from bike mechanic: Use jumper wire fed the splitted pluser singal to 2 idenctical "generic" DC-CDI https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9597038946 (Old bike ALWAYS f***ed CDI's source power coil in stator)
Proper stuff exists but costs time to order...

It definitely has a two wire pulse sender, one blue white stripe, one green

[humanbeing]

It definitely has a two wire pulse sender, one blue white stripe, one green

Options:
1. Jumper trick ie. 2 dc CDI (u can try AC CDI but the result...)
2. Proper CA250 (& clone) CDI (the exciter coil in stator needs in working order!!!)
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http://s177.photobucket.com/user/88N...-2009.jpg.html
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Guys from http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/forum.php | http://www.hondarebelforum.com/ may have more clues.

[Geoffo]

Options:
1. Jumper trick ie. 2 dc CDI (u can try AC CDI but the result...)
2. Proper CA250 (& clone) CDI (the exciter coil in stator needs in working order!!!)
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http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/d.../wirechart.jpg
http://s177.photobucket.com/user/88N...-2009.jpg.html
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Guys from http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/forum.php | http://www.hondarebelforum.com/ may have more clues.

The harness and coils are set up as in the CMX250CD schematics, with two b/y wires coming out of the CDI, one feeding each coil. Not one wire feeding both coils. So it looks like I need a CDI to suit the CMX 250 CD. Now I just need to find one.

[humanbeing]

it looks like I need a CDI to suit the CMX 250 CD...

2nd generation Rebel 250 CDI & those copycat also works in theory if join b/y wires together ...
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...24250-1-1.html 13#
http://www.rebel250.com/rebelforum/v...hp?f=2&t=18632

[Geoffo]

2nd generation Rebel 250 CDI & those copycat also works in theory if join b/y wires together ...
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...24250-1-1.html 13#
http://www.rebel250.com/rebelforum/v...hp?f=2&t=18632

Thanks for all your help. The new stator is putting out 33v AC, the old one was 38v AC, I've put in a new impulse sender as the old one was damaged. I've ordered two new coils, ex China, and I will probably order a Chinese 6 pin CDI AC and link the two coil feeds to the one output from the CDI. Someone told me that 33v AC is too low to fire up the CDI. What's your thoughts on 33v output whilst cranking. I'm determined to get this quad going, but it is doing my head in.

[humanbeing]

General info for chonda:
[Energy] Source coil/ exciter... R/B >50V (>100V in morden Honda manual) Bypass w/ "DC-CDI" (Steady 200v all day long, no matter the rev) is a streetwise fix
[When] Pickup/ trigger /pulser ... Bu/W >0.5V (>0.7V im morden Honda shop manual)

[Geoffo]

General info for chonda:
[Energy] Source coil/ exciter... R/B >50V (>100V in morden Honda manual) Bypass w/ "DC-CDI" (Steady 200v all day long, no matter the rev) is a streetwise fix
[When] Pickup/ trigger /pulser ... Bu/W >0.5V (>0.7V im morden Honda shop manual)

So does that mean, use a DC - CDI, replace the red/black wire from magneto to the CDI, with the black wire from the start key (12v). All other wires remain same.

[humanbeing]

So does that mean, use a DC - CDI, replace the red/black wire from magneto to the CDI, with the black wire from the start key (12v). All other wires remain same.

Yup. CDI's +12v should be controlled by ign lock s/w (ie. NO current when off. Example: http://forum.jorsindo.com/thread-2294459-1-1.html
Some idiot machanic just can't learn... Can't s/w off, short battery life ... often heard when these thingy was new in market ...