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  1. #51 Re: Beijing - Qinghai - Beijing (Sep 2017) 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexeyich View Post
    Yeah, I plan to travel during the second fortnight of September and have a bit of time during the Golden Week to visit my parents and see some dudes etc.


    So you are going to ride both ways now? and not ship your bike?
    Reasons ???

    Sounds like a better way IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prince666 View Post
    So you are going to ride both ways now? and not ship your bike?
    Reasons ???

    Sounds like a better way IMO.
    Yes, this is a Plan A:) I do not like the concept of Plan B so will try to do everything as planned by Plan A:)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexeyich View Post
    Google Maps say it is 4700km. We'll see:)

    What the hell, impressive, that is quite some! Hope your bikes don't break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moilami View Post
    What the hell, impressive, that is quite some! Hope your bikes don't break.
    Bike should be fine based on my old bike which was a TR-G as well, clocking up over 70.000km with "0" problems .
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  5. #55 Re: Beijing - Qinghai - Beijing (Sep 2017) 
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    Quote Originally Posted by prince666 View Post
    So you are going to ride both ways now? and not ship your bike?
    Reasons ???
    Actually, a couple of reasons behind this:
    - opportunity to see more cities and provinces
    - potential shipment logistics challenges and risks that I cannot control
    - travel budget will not change substantially (would need to add pre-shipment and shipment costs ca. 1500-1800Rmb I understand), two one-way air tickets (2500-3000Rmb)
    - uncertainty with the luggage (understand the bike must be empty of luggage, helmets etc) so this needs to be brought by plane
    - and some others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexeyich View Post
    Actually, a couple of reasons behind this:
    - opportunity to see more cities and provinces
    - potential shipment logistics challenges and risks that I cannot control
    - travel budget will not change substantially (would need to add pre-shipment and shipment costs ca. 1500-1800Rmb I understand), two one-way air tickets (2500-3000Rmb)
    - uncertainty with the luggage (understand the bike must be empty of luggage, helmets etc) so this needs to be brought by plane
    - and some others
    I have looked at shipping many times before and due to the above reasons and a few more, I find its just a lot easier to just ride.

    Looking at your return route, this would be the time I would consider to try to entry the toll roads.
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  7. #57 Re: Beijing - Qinghai - Beijing (Sep 2017) 
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    Well, last weekend I gained practical experience of riding on various roads on my way from Beijing to Qinhuangdao and back.

    On Friday night (ca. 8:30pm) we jumped on a bike to go towards Beidaihe and spend a couple of days on the seaside. I took G1 express way and on my less than 3h journey was stopped by police three times (they have stopped almost every vehicle though) due to additional security measures and I even got a ticket for riding with a pillion passenger.

    With all these stops and police checks we have arrived to the hotel just after midnight and were told that our room was given to other people as we "showed up too late". My comments that in the booking I have explicitly put in writing a note on our late arrival at ca. 11pm (and have this comment printed on my booking confirmation) resulted in nothing except "sorry, sorry, high season, many people". So we had to look for another hotel in the middle of the night.

    On our way back we were not allowed to take express way so we had to go via smaller roads incl. G102. It took us 10 (TEN) hours to get back. We left hotel at 2pm and arrived home at 12am.
    First 30-50km were Ok-ish but then suddenly two bridges were closed for reconstruction so I had to ride around and after several attempts managed to find some small dirty roads as alternative routes. I hoped that it will be the only problem but then I experienced thousands of dirty and dusty trucks around Tangshan area.

    Closer to Beijing there were several road accidents, weight controls, police checks, each of them created multi-km traffic jams of trucks, tractors and local cars. I will not comment on road behavior of some drivers. Several episodes will become my sleeping dogs for some time at least.

    So indeed we covered 330km in 10 hours with having no big fun of the journey:) Would need to take this experience into account before I decide on the route and schedule for my longer trip.
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    TIC for real
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  9. #59 Re: Beijing - Qinghai - Beijing (Sep 2017) 
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    Hi Alex
    And welcome to the roads of China.

    1700 km from BJ to Xining so with no hurry it should take 2 days for us to arrive
    Now maybe you understand why people question your remarks about doing 1700km in 2 days without going on the Toll roads.
    And that 300/500 KM Max would be more realistic.
    With your small ride, it what most of us who have been riding for a long time here in China just call that the "NORMAL".

    So 4 hours took you to the beach and 10 hours to get back.
    You have gained some needed experience IMO and hopefully, as you say should help you plan your next trip.
    The main thing you got back all ok.
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    I wonder how your experience with the long and delayed beach trip from Beijing affected your plans for Qinghai.

    I am still looking for partners to ride. Otherwise next year I'll set off alone on the X2 and see most of the provinces I've not yet visited- Qinghai, Inner Mongolia and others
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