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  1. #1 Zongshen/Norton/Riccardo 650 
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    Riccardo designed Zongshen engine has been shown.
    The first illustration looks very similar to the Kymco K-rider400
    I'm curious about the longevity especially having little faith in anything linked with Norton/Riccardo in the first place.
    Zongshen rates it at 70bhp(52kw)/ 62Nm(46lbft) at 9,000RPM
    Norton Atlas rated at 84bhp(63kw)/ 64Nm(47lbft) at 11,000RPM
    Norton Superlight at 105bhp(78kw)/ 75Nm(55lbft) at 12,500RPM

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  2. #2 Re: Zongshen/Norton/Riccardo 650 
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    I put this deal together and Zongshen 'forgot' to pay me.
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  3. #3 Re: Zongshen/Norton/Riccardo 650 
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    Quote Originally Posted by englishmaninchina View Post
    I put this deal together and Zongshen 'forgot' to pay me.
    Well that would be typical MO from most in the middle kingdo0m
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  4. #4 Re: Zongshen/Norton/Riccardo 650 
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    Seriously! I got 'sent for' by Zongshen and they asked me to find them an engine partner as they wanted to make a 650. After scouting around I put them together with Norton. After a few months I contacted Zongshen and they said that 'they weren't moving forward on the deal with Norton' so I left it until one day I saw the front cover of MCN NORTON AND ZONGSHEN SIGN 20 MILLION DOLLAR ENGINE DEAL. Imagine my surprise! All that money and those wankers tried to do me out of my percentage. I've done loads for Zongshen in the past, including their deal with Fantic, and I've never receieved a fucking bean from them. This country will collapse under the weight of it's own deceipt and corruption one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by englishmaninchina View Post
    ... This country will collapse under the weight of it's own deceipt and corruption one day.
    Yup, absolutely agree 100%
    The unfortunate consequence though is that the collective "west" have given away all the "crown jewels" in the form of tooling, know how, methodology and IP - and we'll all be the poorer for it... actually we the collective have already past that tipping point.
    Now we have to deal with an ignorant and arrogant 'super power'... whom share very little altruistic, ethical, moral values
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