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    Hell yeah, business is about maintaining relationships more than anything else. Making a quick buck may sound good to some people but in the long run it makes life miserable and your job harder. Glad to hear you got a good dealership and a good bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpPeej View Post
    Now that's the kind of industry and product perspective I knew you guys had. Thanks again for sharing.

    The Qlink 200's are modern, road legal, and supported. And, I do like the look of their SuMo and Megelli bikes. That's a likely candidate. Now the Pitster XTR 250 looks really tasty, but I still am not sure it's road legal/titleable. I've been requesting dealer and product info from many sources. Pit bikes sell well around here 'cuz Road America Speedway is 50 miles north(Suzuki Superbikes this weekend).

    I'll let you know what samples I order.

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    You really should shoot a e-mail to gary @ pitster. Seems like a nice guy, actually answers his e-mails too. Much better then me, takes me 2 weeks to send a mail if i'm lucky
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    Quote Originally Posted by chromedioxide View Post
    You really should shoot a e-mail to gary @ pitster. Seems like a nice guy, actually answers his e-mails too. Much better then me, takes me 2 weeks to send a mail if i'm lucky
    Gary will get you a good deal.
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    Johnny Pag claims to manufacter his own bikes, but they are actually made by a company called Lifeng using engines made by Dadyw? or something like that. The Choppers appear to be designed in the US, but a manufactered in China and are cheerfully sold in other countries under other names, usually 'Regal Raptor.'

    That said, having examined many hundreds of Chinese bikes the seem to be among the best for fit and finish, and most of copies with some Honda Rebel DNA, from a perfect copy of and overseas Honda Rebel to strange derivatives, including 350 cc watercooled engines.

    Another thing to keep in mind is that most Chinese bikes based on a small handful of outdated Japanese engines. If I was a dealer, concentrating on on engine lineage would be useful.

    Example, Kinlons, Lifans and many others use engines based ont the old Honda XR185. I have seen many parts seem to fit on any bike, regardless of the maker. Another large group is based on Honda CRF150 engines. Already mention has been Qinqi`s love affair with the Suzuki DR200 engine, and Zongshen`s with the Yamaha XT225..TW200 engine.
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    I forgot about Johnny Pag--they have a good reputation among Chinese-made bikes, with a decent-sized cult following, and their bikes are found elsewhere, too, under different names in the US. But they are a "premium" Chinese bike, and their cost reflects this. My biggest complaint is that their twin-engines are not the 'decorative' v-twin, but are inline twins. If I was in the market for a 'custom' cruiser, I would seriously consider the Hibird cruiser just for the look of the v-twin. I wonder if Pag would sell me one of their police bikes?
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    Was just in downtown DC this past weekend seeing Gil Scott-Heron at BLues Alley in Georgetown. Cam outside and noticed a cop on a Johnny Pag. They've done well as police bikes and he's done A LOT of work to make his line successful. That said, the bikes are functional but not very modern, even for Chinese bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCarl View Post
    Was just in downtown DC this past weekend seeing Gil Scott-Heron at BLues Alley in Georgetown. Cam outside and noticed a cop on a Johnny Pag. They've done well as police bikes and he's done A LOT of work to make his line successful. That said, the bikes are functional but not very modern, even for Chinese bikes.

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    I lived in DC metro area a long time, when did the cops switch from harleys to pags? Its news to me.
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    Well this is in DC itself, not the surrounding areas of VA or MD. They still have Harleys but use these smaller bikes for things like weekend patroling (when the streets are busy) and parking enforcement.

    I'm not exactly sure when they started using them but there they are. It could have possibly also been a Honda Rebel I suppose but it sure looked like a C-Moto to me and I know Johnny Pag has been hitting the police agencies hard.

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