2010 CFMoto Jetmax 250 Scooter

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Originally Posted by ultraman

Thanks for all theinformation, thejetmaxwill be onsale in mycountry in10 days,and I want tobuy,27,000 kmlastrollers, you know theprice or weightof them? you are wecome for more information https://www.facebook.com/groups/221496227923542/

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You might like to correct the colour of the fonts, as it's not easy to read your post.
The roller weights are 11g each. Price for the roller weights comes complete with the front variator and cost special price of CNY900 though it is advertised as CNY1450. Besides you are in Argentina so the price will likely be different. The rollers are not sold separately, only supplied by CFMoto as complete variator assembly. I replaced the front variator with rollers at 34000km, and now have completed 36000km. Just replaced front and rear tyres, with a 120/70-15 Pirelli and a 150/70-14 Bridgestone. Also fitted new rear brake pads and refaced the rear rotor brake-disc. Added a couple of small semi-circular tabs to the bottom of the centre stand to compensate for the slightly bigger rear tyre (standard rear is a 140/60-14) which has increased the rear ride height a little. All in all, happy with the scoot.

I did look at Mitsuboshi when I was looking to replace the CVT belt, but honestly it was more convenient to just buy the belt and then later the rear variator pulley complete with roller weights directly from CFMoto. You might be able to find a belt that fits, or even as in my case I was looking for replacement roller weights from another after market supplier. But you need to know the dimensions etc of these items since there is so many variables. At the time when I had problems with one then later a second roller weight, I did look elsewhere since CFMoto only sells the roller weights complete with the variator assembly. Perhaps they already knew that the life of the roller weights and the variator ramps would wear out around the same time. Who knows... anyway as stated, it was far easier in the end to just buy what I needed at the time from CFMoto which has a shop on Taoabo (like eBay).

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Originally Posted by ultraman

thanks Bikerdoc four your time this am in the motorcycle expo in My Country, you have brake rotor picture? You could buy the CTV? Mitsuboshi 226 x 903 price? in dolar .is difficult to find the model on page Mitsuboshi

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The Jetmax in the picture you posted doesn't have the integrated pillion grab rails with rear luggage rack or luggage rack lugs.

You share here good images of scooter.I like this scooter design and its features.This scooter engine is powerful then other scooter.Thanks for sharing info about this scooter.

From Chile (not China) Hi Bikerdoc:
The Jetmax is in our market since March 2012, and is all sold out now. Next shipment will arrive for latest November, and given
my interest in one, your brilliant report is very helpful for me. I'm a chinese user, Great Wall d/c truck & Skygo V250 bike, both very good machines at 40% price of the japs.
Thanks and best regards
Alberto

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Originally Posted by ultraman

Bikerdoc thank you very much for the information, CFMOTO shop shipping outside of China ?
Jetmax just buy my idea is to travel from the beaches ARGENTINA-BRAZIL2500 km.total 5300km, you made a long travel to China?
something you want to recommend me for this trip?

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Sorry missed your reply. So how did your trip go?

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Originally Posted by albest

From Chile (not China) Hi Bikerdoc:
The Jetmax is in our market since March 2012, and is all sold out now. Next shipment will arrive for latest November, and given my interest in one, your brilliant report is very helpful for me. I'm a chinese user, Great Wall d/c truck & Skygo V250 bike, both very good machines at 40% price of the japs.
Thanks and best regards
Alberto

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Hi Alberto, glad to see that you have interest in the Jetmax. Keep in mind that CFMoto also have a Jetlux which shares the same engine, but has quite a different design, different plastics, smaller diameter wheels, different headlights and seat design. One thing that is important to consider is even though CFmoto are better in many ways to the average Chinese motorcycle manufacturer there are still costs savings being made on their motorcycles. The savings have got to come from somewhere. If you have a chance to compare a Kymco Xciting 250 and the CFmoto Jetmax 250 you find substantial differences, as I did. When I ride my Jetmax and then ride my Burgman they are just so different and I am not referring to just engine size 250 vs 650. Quality of paint, plastics, fittings, design and functionality, materials and so on.

Just because you might save 60% MSRP between a Chinese bike and something comparable does not mean that they are the same quality, fit and finish. You just need to compare bikes to work out if the 60% cost saving to you is worth the sacrifices in other areas. In other words, if the circumstance were different and I could have had other choices at the time of purchase, would I still buy and ride the Jetmax all things being equal, probably not. This became even more apparent to me when I was back in NZ for 3 months (March-June) and I bought a Suzuki AN650 executive model. The difference between that and the Jetmax is quite remarkable. Keep in mind that I have done 47000km+ on my Jetmax, and modified it a lot. The differences are there and it is the reason I bought another AN650 Executive here in China even though I contemplated the CFMoto 650TR. I even rode 900km return trip to see a 650TR in person so I could judge for myself, if it ticked enough boxes for me to buy one. The 650TR while quite nice, is expensive (rmb46800 MSRP) and still some significant compromises in my opinion. At the moment there is still a significant gap between Chinese motorcycles and those from Japan, Europe and elsewhere.

Keep in mind that nothing comes for free, the 60% price difference between the Jetmax and some other overseas manufacturers model, has been arrived at in many different ways, not just in terms of manufacturing, but also in terms of market & currency manipulation plus other methods.

Just sayin...

YMMV

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Hi Alberto, glad to see that you have interest in the Jetmax...........

Just sayin...

YMMV

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Hi Bikerdoc: Thanks for your complete replay, and I must add that I agree with all your points and understand clearly your "just sayin". But in my current world some things are now different: 68 y/o, 57 ys riding motorcycles but never scooter, that has become a desire; but in these days I think we must keep our feet on the ground, and I really don´t need a US$ 13.000 scooter to ride 5.000 mls a year if I can get a new Jetmax for US$ 4.000. BTW I´m also keeping my current bike, and with both I´m going to do about 8.000 mls in the year.
Again, thanks for taking your time
Alberto

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Originally Posted by albest

Hi Bikerdoc: Thanks for your complete replay, and I must add that I agree with all your points and understand clearly your "just sayin". But in my current world some things are now different: 68 y/o, 57 ys riding motorcycles but never scooter, that has become a desire; but in these days I think we must keep our feet on the ground, and I really don´t need a US$ 13.000 scooter to ride 5.000 mls a year if I can get a new Jetmax for US$ 4.000. BTW I´m also keeping my current bike, and with both I´m going to do about 8.000 mls in the year.
Again, thanks for taking your time
Alberto

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Hi all ,,I think you have a point Aberto,,,,but I look at owning Chinese machines from a diffferent perspective,being the price they are right now (cheap),it allows me to own a machine for every speical roll,,ie dirt bike,,,highway touring,,and scootering,,,there is no one bike that will do all these jobs,,and is reasonbly good at all them, what ever the manufacturers say....Sure they have not got the quantitiy of the Japs and Europeans,,,but they still are not too bad.....Saying That!!!! I could not being myself to part with £2800 for a Jetmax,the one I saw (in black) looked really iffy.........Good regards Lipsee

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Originally Posted by lipsee

Hi all ,,I think you have a point Aberto,,,,but I look at owning Chinese machines from a diffferent perspective,being the price they are right now (cheap),it allows me to own a machine for every speical roll,,ie dirt bike,,,highway touring,,and scootering,,,there is no one bike that will do all these jobs,,and is reasonbly good at all them, what ever the manufacturers say....Sure they have not got the quantitiy of the Japs and Europeans,,,but they still are not too bad.....Saying That!!!! I could not being myself to part with £2800 for a Jetmax,the one I saw (in black) looked really iffy.........Good regards Lipsee

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Hi Lipsee: I´m in the same vein as you; I´ve got a chinese custom V250 bike, Yamaha "clone", and its quality is the same as the Yamaha(at least till now - 13.000 km); now I want to add a scooter, and I like the Jetmax and don´t need anything bigger nor better. As I´m not a boy, I think I will finish my bike-life with both bikes.
Best regards
Alberto

Dear All,

it looks like that manuals for the Jetmax are no longer available for download from the CFMoto website: any chance anyone has a pdf copy? Also, my two months old Jetmax, less than 1000 km, has the battery flat (I just haven't used the scooter for a week!) and it doesn't start: any one kind enough to provide some information about where the battery compartment is, and what's a suitable battery charger?
I know I should call the dealers (they are about 70km away), but I am not sure how they could help me apart from making me even more disappointed.
Any advice is very welcome here...
Thank you from Bedfordshire, UK.

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Originally Posted by venez1

Dear All,

it looks like that manuals for the Jetmax are no longer available for download from the CFMoto website: any chance anyone has a pdf copy? Also, my two months old Jetmax, less than 1000 km, has the battery flat (I just haven't used the scooter for a week!) and it doesn't start: any one kind enough to provide some information about where the battery compartment is, and what's a suitable battery charger?
I know I should call the dealers (they are about 70km away), but I am not sure how they could help me apart from making me even more disappointed.
Any advice is very welcome here...
Thank you from Bedfordshire, UK.

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The manual I will PM you shortly. Just have to make sure I have it on this computer (at my office).

About the battery, unfortunately the Jetmax doesn't like not having the battery attended for a week give or take a day or two. I know that first hand am now on my 3rd battery, seems like one battery a year and I'm not using cheap batteries which are plentiful here in mainland China. If I could get a suitable Motobatt battery I would, but seems like none of the right model that fit are here. If you read all this thread you will find where the battery is located. But since I'm feeling generous, I can tell you that if you get down on your hands and knees :P beside the front wheel, look in as though you are trying to view behind the front mudguard you will see that there is a panel held in by two screws at the bottom of the panel. Inside this is the battery bay, and it is a tight arse fit getting in there with the wheel in the way. It is possible though to access the battery, and even remove it or refit the battery with the front wheel still on, but its a pain.

There is a neat trick though whereby you don't have to access the battery this way... get a battery charger or battery tender - a motorcycle friendly one with smaller alligator connectors is best, then open up the main glove box compartment on the Jetmax, and over on the right side near a black plug should be a long white fuse housing with a red positive cable entering and exiting each end. Open up that fuse holder (main fuse), exposing the metal of the fuse holder at one end, connect the positive side alligator clip of said battery charger, tender or what have you, then connect the negative side of the battery charger or battery tender to a ground of some kind. Naturally if you have a spare fully charged battery or are using jumper leads then this can still be done, its just being able to use connections of the right size in this application. Otherwise it means getting down and dirty accessing the battery from down at the front. If you plan on not using the Jetmax for several days or more, leave a battery tender in situ, connected to the main fuse as described above, it is what I do most of the time.

Hello Bikerdoc, thank you for your prompt reply and for your generous advice: very appreciated. I will give it a try soon and duly report, if the community should find this of any benefit.

Hi Bikerdoc

Just hit 12.000km and found the back tyre is shot back pads are shot as well maybe a bit to shot as i need the change the back disc now ... but found the right hand side engine mount spilt see picture i did hit a big pot hole last night but still bad for this part to go ... but what i need your advise on is that with all the work i am doing on the back i think it is time to check the V belt but the problem i am having is getting the V-belt cover of see picture .

Got all the bolts out and the cover movers ok but it wont just come of is it held on by the pulley nut in the picture. and is the pulley nut left or right hand ... your help and advice would be appreciated

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Hi Bikerdoc

Just hit 12.000km and found the back tyre is shot back pads are shot as well maybe a bit to shot as i need the change the back disc now ... but found the right hand side engine mount spilt see picture i did hit a big pot hole last night but still bad for this part to go ... but what i need your advise on is that with all the work i am doing on the back i think it is time to check the V belt but the problem i am having is getting the V-belt cover of see picture .

Got all the bolts out and the cover movers ok but it wont just come of is it held on by the pulley nut in the picture. and is the pulley nut left or right hand ... your help and advice would be appreciated

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Hi Prince666 (whats that handle anyway, prince of darknEss? hahahaha)
OK, the crack of the RHS rear sub swing-arm assembly is due to over stress. A big enough hit, like jumps and potholes will do that. Might have accumulated from a number of hits then hitting the pothole might have been the final hit. I've ridden mine 60K km without that happening, but I slow down whenever I encounter bad road conditions or what not, unlike another mate who rides his like he stole it (basically treats it like a dual purpose bike). His Jetmax's rear swing-arm suiffered the same fate as yours, so he had it specially welded up, though I think he bought a replacement in the end. I've followed him on his Jetmax more than once, and have often times cringed at just how abusive he is towards the scoot. Taking jumps of high berms and what not, then he complains about this or that not lasting etc. I just shake my head (our side joke - all arse, no class).

Accessing the final drive...
Yes, you need to remove that nut to get the casing off. You need an impact driver to get the nut off, basically the same device used in most car tyre shops. I have a Milwaukee portable impact driver that does exactly that job. That nut can't really be removed any other way. Believe me, we've tried. Once you get that nut free, the rest is easy. Check the roller weights and the variable pulley ramp sides for wear. Best time to replace the rollers and final drive belt, though at only 12K km I think you'd find that the belt is okay. Take the belt off, you'll find that the width has reduced compared to original, check the inside for any cracking etc. - replace, otherwise should be good to reuse.
Might be worth checking the clutch too while in there. Use some compressed air to blow the innards of the final drive assembly.

Hi bikerdoc

Thanks great help ok i need to buy impack driver ?? ok with the prince666 my famliy name is "prince" and you have lived in china a long time now so unlike in the west 666 is bad here in china the number "6"

The number 6 also represents wealth in Cantonese, this number is a homophone for (祿 Lok). 6 (六, Pinyin: liù) in Mandarin is pronounced the same as "liu" (溜, Pinyin: liù) and similar to "flow" (流, Pinyin: liú) and is therefore considered good for business.

so i have 3 times the good "wealth" so that clears that matter up heheh once and for all !

check the Clutch !!! does it have one ??

Thanks for your time ....

edited my reply to your original question so just a heads up to re-read my previous reply. Got it on the 六六六 :mwink:
Lucky guy...

Yes clutch, in the rear its inside the "bell housing" on that rear shaft you need to undo/remove that nut, to get the casing off.

"Accessing the final drive...
Yes, you need to remove that nut to get the casing off. You need an impact driver to get the nut off, basically the same device used in most car tyre shops. I have a Milwaukee portable impact driver that does exactly that job. That nut can't really be removed any other way. Believe me, we've tried. Once you get that nut free, the rest is easy. Check the roller weights and the variable pulley ramp sides for wear. Best time to replace the rollers and final drive belt, though at only 12K km I think you'd find that the belt is okay. Take the belt off, you'll find that the width has reduced compared to original, check the inside for any cracking etc. - replace, otherwise should be good to reuse.
Might be worth checking the clutch too while in there. Use some compressed air to blow the innards of the final drive assembly"


Hi Bikerdoc

Had a look at the cost of a "Milwaukee portable impact tool" on Taobao it was loads of RMB and when i looked at the chinese made ones cost was ok but with the milwaukee could undo nuts with 850NM the chinese ones was only 200NM so i decided to go a long the lines of why not buy a compressed air impact driver and a air compressor ??? impact driver was 200RMB and the air comressor was 1000 rmb compared to the milwaukee at nearly 4000 rmb the air compressor has 35 L and goes up to 8 BAR which is fine for the impact driver i went this way because now i have a Air line for cleaning out bits and i have a air line to check the bike and car tyres for the correct pressure because how many time have you gone into a tyre shop and asked them to check the tyre pressure on the bike and all there have done is kicked it and said "Its Fine" the shit head dont know just with +or- 6lb correct pressure in a tyre is not good ! so now i can check it my self :clap::clap:
All went well got the cover of checked the belt looked like new ... cleaned out all the other bits with my new air line and now i am justed waiting for all the new bits to come from CF then back on the road well thanks for your help hope to talk to you soon on other matters ....

Good to go... then.
Pop some links on here for the air compressor and the air driven impact driver so any one else looking for the same or similar items on Taobao can find where to start. I preferred the portability of the Milwaukee branded drive, so I went that route. I also bought myself a portable Milwaukee drill set at the same time. I had a electric drill but not a rechargeable one, so the two Milwaukee items have been a real help.

The issue with the tyres tends to be over inflation. I just had this very issue with the new tyre I had fitted to the rear rim of my AN650K7, where I took the wheel rim and new tyre into a car tyre shop and had them swap/replace the tyre. Again they over inflated the tyre by about 15psi. Then last Friday myself and two mates rode from Ningbo to Xiaoshan for the Winners Motorcycle Club 11th anniversary party. Midway, near the HZ Bay River, we stopped along the seawall at a Pagoda (it's a hidden gem midway between Shangyu & Shaoxing). One of my mates was riding his new Benelli when he starts complaining about the front handling - close to 100km/h the bike had a vague front end feeling with a vibration through the front end too. Me and the other mate both took the Benelli for a ride along the sea wall. Sure enough 90-100km/h plus the front felt "off". Pulled out my air compressor and air pressure gauge, check front and rear tyres to find that both were in-fact under-inflated 20psi each. The portable electronic air compressor got it sorted.

PS. Great party and location for the Winners Motorcycle Club 11th anniversary. Harley Davidson also opened a new shop in Xiaoshan, and had their opening party on Saturday night. :)

Hi there

I've seen various references to the CVT belt, but other than one dealer in the USA, I've been unable to find a replacement on-line. I've tried the Chines Ebay type site, but am unable to understand Chinese.

Anyone have any tips on where to purchase?

Many thanks
John

( I have the belt details etc)

Why not contact CFMoto Australia?
http://www.cfmoto.com.au/dealers/

An alternative is to buy on Taobao. Here are two (1 & 2) different sellers selling the final drive belt (neither are the official CFMoto factory sales dept that has a TMALL site). Unfortunately the CFMoto factory sales dept don't have the belt listed, so that would require a phone call, and Mandarin skills would be needed for that conversation.

An alternative would be to organise to buy via a Taobao agent like Taobao focus which will buy selected itens for you, bundling together multiple items and then sending to you, for a fee.

Having helped a number of overseas owners of the Jetmax get items that they are unable to source through their respective CFMoto dealers, I can tell you that couriering items to destaintions abroad is somewhat costly, although the belt being smaller and fairly light would be a little less so. Sending by China Post carries some risk that the item ends up 'lost'.

thanks Bikerdoc, I'll give the local dealers a try and see how they go, appreciate your help

Cheers

John

Hi bikerdoc im from philippines is the jetmax worth buying? It is available now here but only few have bought it and there is no thread here about jetmax owners to give some feedback of their jetmax. Im planning to get one but im afraid of the aftersales service and parts i really like the jetmax and have read all reviews about it. But here in our country when you say that its a chinese scooter some people says that it will not last 1 tear. One thing i like is that its equipped with speakers but i was told of one of the mechanics here at cfmoto that its not waterproof. Can you please update me if the parts are good especially the engine so that i can decide and also how about its fuel consumption? Many thanks and hope to hear from you soon.

We have recently taken possession of a demonstrator from the New Zealand CFMOTO importer. So far we have to agree with biker doc's assessment of its performance. Very good, and considering the price, brilliant. It is almost as fast on the motorway as a 300 Gilera Nexus. Overall quality is not as good but it is almost half the price: $NZ 4750 vs $NZ 8500.

It appears the Jetmax has changed very little from the original 2010 model. We'd have thought CFMOTO would offer an optional seat (without the back rest) as even our shorter riders felt cramped. We removed the back rest to see what it was like without it. In a word: perfect. We suggest CFMOTO simply pads the seat slightly differently, leaves the back rest out and then there would be no reason to cut the four holes in the seat skin to mount the back rest.

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We have clocked almost 500 km of commuting on a range of 50, 70 and 100 km/h roads. We increased rear spring pre-load to the maximum as we were scraping the foot of the centre-stand in right-hand corners. The side-stand also scrapes in left-handers.

Great storage space (who needs a top-box?) and very easy to ride.

We have had no difficulty locking up either the rear, or the front wheels using the brakes. Both require a firm squeeze.

A heck of a lot of scooter for the money.

As an aside, some Australian journalists took a brand new one and thrashed it from Melbourne to Sydney in two days in company with Piaggio's X7 300 and a Kymco Downtown 300i. The fact the Jetmax was taken straight out of the crate and thrashed for two days with no problems impressed the Aussie testers. Plus it was able to set the pace on occasions...

After reading and digesting all I could about the WK (CF Moto) Jetmax on every blog and video review site I could find, the decision to buy a Jetmax finally came down to two things for me - price and expectation!

Unlike many who may look to buy this scoot, I'm not using it on a daily basis as a commuter and it's not my only means of transport. Basically I use it as a fun weekend tourer with the occasional longer distance rides thrown in when time permits. Had my needs been more demanding then I'm quite sure I'd have spent the extra money and bought one of the other two options I was looking at, namely the Sym Joymax 300 or the Kymco Downtown 300.

It goes without saying that the price of the Jetmax is rediculously attractive considering it's nearest rivals which are almost £1,600 more expensive. Yes, there's no doubt that the Jetmax doesn't compare in the quality stakes to the other two machines, but with the 2 year parts and labour guarantee on the WK import I'm hoping any major problems arising during this period as a result of the lower chinese quality/build/design issues should all be covered under the guarantee.

The thing is, if I have a bad experience with this machine (as some have reported), then after two years I'll simply get rid of it, and to be honest, even if I only get £500 in part exchange, it's not a lot of money to loose over that period on a new machine (you lose that kind of money on most new cars by simply driving them out of the showroom!). However, with the kind of light use it's going to get from me, I doubt that many of the problems that have been reported will ever arise, and if they do, it's likely to be at a time when I'm looking to replace the machine anyway!

Bikerdoc has done us all a great service by detailing his experiences with his machine, so I'm not going to reiterate what he and others have so kindly documented for us all. Suffice to say that my own expectations for this Scoot were not terribly high when I bought it, so from that starting point I'm glad to say that I'm pleasantly pleased with the bike. I'm still running it in at the moment so I can't really comment too much at this stage. But from the initial observations I'm happy with what I've got for the money, and I'll report back again on this site at regular intervals on how things are going.

What really perplexes and surprises me most about this machine though is that the things that are so obviously deficient or lacking on it are things that could so easily have been overcome or remedied in the manufacturing process with little or no impact on CF Motos bottom line. There is just no logical excuse or reason for many of the little bits and pieces that have had little or no thought put into their operation, manufacture or fitting. Generally it's not a problem of how these items are fitted either, they were just not well thought out, produced or manufactured properly in the first place!!! OK, much of this is cosmetic I admit, but if you extend this logic into the major components and engine parts (the bits you can't see), then you really have to wonder whether what is under the covers and inside the engine (the parts that really matter) are similarly manufactured and put together?! I guess only time will tell.......:confused1:

26 Jul 14 - Updates so far....

Footmats
The footmats on the Jetmax are made of semi dense rubber material which is ok, but I've found the Studs on the underneath of the mats which fit into the floor panels to hold them in place do not all align correctly. Maybe the rubber shrinks or expands with temperature changes or more likely they were made to the same slack tolerences as some of the other parts, who knows, but the end result is that it stops the floor mats from fitting flush with the floor panels and just as with some of the plastics on this bike, it just doesn't look good. So, I cut the offending studs off the bottom of the mats and replaced with velcro tabs. Now the mats fit nice and snug and stay in place and can still be removed as and when necessary for access to the panel bolts.

Battery tender
The battery on this machine is located in such a ridiculous location (underneath the front wheel arch) that it makes it unreasonably difficult to do any kind of battery maintenance or even put it on a charger when you need to as you have to crawl about underneath the front wheel arch in order to get a battery cover off and any clips attached to the terminals. So, as I do not intend to use the bike in the winter I will need to have a battery tender attender giving the battery a regular boost during this extended period of downtime. So, I attached the female end of the tender lead permanantly to the battery and ran the wire up into the front storage locker area via the bottom left hand side hinge (which is directly over the battery bay), and secured the lead with a clip tie. Now I just open up the storage area and connect the tender up as and when required. Job done!

Rear Shocks
As has been reported elsewhere on this and other sites, the rear shocks are a little soft and will need adjusting up to a higher setting if you want to get around the twisties without grounding out on the footstand! Even at their highest adjustment, the bike will still ground out if you are two up and you go into a corner with any kind of dip or bump on it. This is not only dangerous and risks lifting the rear wheel off of the tarmac, but it also makes you look like a bit of a tw*t to those following or the frightened pedestrians witnessing sparks flying out from underneath a scooter accompanied by a deathly grinding screech!!! Soooo, rather than swapping out the rear shocks for a pair that are a little more up-to-job (and of course expensive), I've sent away for a set rear shock extenders which will give me an extra 3cm of clearance, which combined with the higher setting on the shocks should keep the footstand off of the ground when cornering. They haven't arrived yet so I can't give you a definite answer, but if you are having the same problem and are interested, then this is where I got them from. http://tinyurl.com/oetgwk3

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26 Jul 14 - Updates so far....

Footmats
The footmats on the Jetmax are made of semi dense rubber material which is ok, but I've found the Studs on the underneath of the mats which fit into the floor panels to hold them in place do not all align correctly. Maybe the rubber shrinks or expands with temperature changes or more likely they were made to the same slack tolerences as some of the other parts, who knows, but the end result is that it stops the floor mats from fitting flush with the floor panels and just as with some of the plastics on this bike, it just doesn't look good. So, I cut the offending studs off the bottom of the mats and replaced with velcro tabs. Now the mats fit nice and snug and stay in place and can still be removed as and when necessary for access to the panel bolts.

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Haven't experienced this with my Jetmax. Actually, I had the RHS rubber mat off several times within the past month as I found the starter relay needed replacing, that meant removal of the RHS 'floor board' as the relay sits very tight underneath the RHS bike frame (underneath floor board). Rubber mates sit firm and flush. It might be a case of expansion and shrinkage which will likely differ due to environmental factors etc. Also if the little rubber grommets weren't aligned correctly from the get go (ex-factory), then it's likely the mats won't sit correctly. Sometimes a little finesse or brute force while holding ones tongue in the right manner/position is required to affect a desirable outcome.

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Battery tender
The battery on this machine is located in such a ridiculous location (underneath the front wheel arch) that it makes it unreasonably difficult to do any kind of battery maintenance or even put it on a charger when you need to as you have to crawl about underneath the front wheel arch in order to get a battery cover off and any clips attached to the terminals. So, as I do not intend to use the bike in the winter I will need to have a battery tender attender giving the battery a regular boost during this extended period of downtime. So, I attached the female end of the tender lead permanantly to the battery and ran the wire up into the front storage locker area via the bottom left hand side hinge (which is directly over the battery bay), and secured the lead with a clip tie. Now I just open up the storage area and connect the tender up as and when required. Job done!

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In the front lockable cubby, next to the seat release latch, there is a cylindrical fuse in a white plastic housing with a high gauge red wire in/out each end. Open that plastic housing and attach a positive electrode from a battery tender or similar, and simply find a grounding point (for me I've fitted a multiplug accessory adapter which is secrured with a metal band - the band acts as a good earth), and job done. Battery will charge using this method. But as stated, battery access is one PITA. Removal of front wheel or front tupperware alleviates some of the angst in this regard. Worthwhile noting if other work is being undertaken...

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Originally Posted by JayKay

Rear Shocks
As has been reported elsewhere on this and other sites, the rear shocks are a little soft and will need adjusting up to a higher setting if you want to get around the twisties without grounding out on the footstand! Even at their highest adjustment, the bike will still ground out if you are two up and you go into a corner with any kind of dip or bump on it. This is not only dangerous and risks lifting the rear wheel off of the tarmac, but it also makes you look like a bit of a tw*t to those following or the frightened pedestrians witnessing sparks flying out from underneath a scooter accompanied by a deathly grinding screech!!! Soooo, rather than swapping out the rear shocks for a pair that are a little more up-to-job (and of course expensive), I've sent away for a set rear shock extenders which will give me an extra 3cm of clearance, which combined with the higher setting on the shocks should keep the footstand off of the ground when cornering. They haven't arrived yet so I can't give you a definite answer, but if you are having the same problem and are interested, then this is where I got them from. http://tinyurl.com/oetgwk3

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I fitted standard radial tyres (Bridgestone Battlax's) front and rear, which lift the scoot an inch or two over all, therefore ground clearance is raised. This required the centre stand to be adjusted to compensate. Something that might need addressing in the case of fitting rear shock extenders as the end result will be similar - altered ground clearance with the centre stand not touching down as anticipated.

As always, a helpful and interesting response from Bikerdoc, thank you! :clap:

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Originally Posted by bikerdoc

I fitted standard radial tyres (Bridgestone Battlax's) front and rear, which lift the scoot an inch or two over all, therefore ground clearance is raised. This required the centre stand to be adjusted to compensate. Something that might need addressing in the case of fitting rear shock extenders as the end result will be similar - altered ground clearance with the centre stand not touching down as anticipated.

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Just an update on the Shock extenders that I mentioned in the previous post. Having fitted these to the TOP of the standard adjustable shocks over the weekend, we went out for a test ride and I'm pleased to report that the problem of the center stand grounding out during hard cornering is now a thing of the past. Even with the shocks adjusted to the middle of the 5 settings (as we travel with luggage) the center stand still does not ground out and still works fine. The 2cm extra clearance that the extenders give to the ride height is a perfect fit and requires no additional tweaking of the center stand in order to compensate for the extra clearance, which I am very pleased about as I really didn't want the extra hassle!