Mazel tov Michou, i hope she lasts long and is as fun as she looks!
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Mazel tov Michou, i hope she lasts long and is as fun as she looks!
Oh yeah she does! She's a real b...h and gets a lot of fun :clap:
(even though I'm still missing my Husqvarna :icon10:)
She's not new, aleready 20'000km but the Engine is in really good shape and the XR are realiable bikes. I was not frightened when looking at the km on the odo as it has been well maintained.
I will PM you soon
See you (gros con)
So it seems like this thread lost directions. Wasn't it supposed to list bikes that are actually C3 compliant and discuss developments in this regard?
No new intel? No new rumours about what is going to be available and ready for plating in the next couple of weeks/months?
Dear Fahni,
Thanks for bumping the thread. Is your Jialing now C3? If so, add it to the list. I don't think we want rumors. The list is for confirmed, registrable bikes!
thanks!
You got a point there, Euphonius!
Yes, the JH-150GY 3 is C3 compliant. Price 7.300-7.800 excluding taxes.
It has a C3 sticker and registration of filipus new bike was no problem at all. But as I understood, for <150cc bikes C3 is no big issue anyway and it only gets complicated with >150cc bikes.
Does anyone know anything about the Suzuki EN150-A? Saw some in the dealer today. It is C3 compliant.
Fuel-injected, tubeless tires, disc/drum, full instrumentation, seems like the parts are of reasonable quality for an assembly-line bike.
Humanbeing commented on another thread that it has a two-year warranty, and provided a Suzuki link, but there has been no other discussion about it.
According to Jianshe the their R6 (JS150-3) meets E3? It has a 150cc that they rate with 13./82hp @8000 rpm. They claim it is offered with an optional EFI.
http://www.jianshetrade.com/$website.../JS150-3-d.jpg
They all seem to be developing EFI versions of 150cc models, which makes sense since they are looking to improve mileage and emissions on the majority, which mostly are commuters.
It's on the English version Jianshe site, it may only be available for export?
http://www.jianshe.com.cn/
G'day. I am seriously considering a 2011 Galaxy XTR250. felix had one, racked up 20K kms and sold it on.:mwink:
He warned me the C3 restrictions affected it being able to be registered.
I already know Yangzhou city is now impossible to register a new bike, the quota is FULL.:eek2:
I believe I can register it in the home town of my wife, about 30mins SE of the city.
I have my E license, a resident visa, its only this C3 issue thats holding me back.
Yang min min from Yi Zheng galaxy dealer said he could/assist me get it registered in Yi Zheng, for around the same 1500RMB price.
I would think the C3 restrictions were all over China, not just for Beijing, Shanghai.
Any advice is appreciated.
As we say in Australia, Stay Upright!:dirtbike:
C3 regulations surely apply across all of China, but that does not mean you cannot find someplace that will register a non-C3 bike. TIC.
Surely Galaxy will be rolling out their C3-compliant models soon. Weren't we expecting these in November or December this year? Or was that Qingqi?
You might want to check with new member dy245000, who recently has had some interactions with Galaxy that left him unimpressed.
If I were you I'd check with the the major makers to see what's in their pipelines for C3 compliance. These bikes must be coming soon, or the makers will have nothing they can sell! Be patient, and don't think too hard of registering a pre-C3 bike. You'd probably be asking for problems.
cheers!
I have been told by people at Galaxy that the XTR can be registered in China, and has C3. It still uses a carb (thank dog). I was not able to get any other info on what mods were done to achieve C3.
Cheers!
ChinaV
http://www.china-tesol.com/China_Fac...C_100new_O.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
:lol8::naughty::rolleyes1::eek2::confused1::riding :
Bahahahahaha.
Ha, money game.
Hmmmn, a comrade, who shall remain un-named procured a new 250cc bike not too long ago.
The vendor said they could do C3 certificate, he was thinking it was going to be a box of chocolates, you know, you never know just what your gonna get.
When it arrived there was a C3 certificate, frame/chassis and engine numbers all matching the new beast, with the minor exception the engine size was listed as 150cc!!
So from his point of view there was no problem to go to the local authorities and register her.
I think this is the primary means Chinese manufacturers are dealing with C3 for the short term, until R&D catches up.
I am now waiting on delivery of a CQR 223cc Jialing from Chongqing.
I did not as yet pay the extra I believe RMB350 for the C3 certificate, but nor did I pay the similar extra amount for the fapiao...
Regret is creeping in slowly, but I am sure I should be able to liaise with my CQR's vendor at a later date, maybe after my next pay cycle!
Yep, they've been doing that for years, especially Shineray, who put bigger engines in for their Chinese customers, not just because of emissions, but also because some of their models can't be registered, because they haven't gotten round to buying the China CCC guy a baijiu dinner with 'a happy ending' yet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Murrance
It's very unlikely, but you might run into trouble after an accident if a Chinese car driver found to be in the wrong goes 'digging' to save money, but you'd likely only lose 20%-40% in compensation, is all that would happen I think.
Personally a carbo Chinese bike is going to be much more reliable than an EFI, unless it is a Yamaha, Suzuki or Honda joint venture.
XY400** is now C3 compliant, at a price quoted at 21300 rmb, according to the following report in a Chinese forum:
http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...t=%D0%C7%D4%C2
Any news on C3 for the Galaxy bikes and/or QingQi 250? I'm hoping to add a dirt bike to the garage!
Galaxy XTR 250 and SUV 250 both are C3 approved. Strangely enough they are not fuel injected but still have passed the C3. QingQi 250 is nowhere in sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Galaxy SUV 250 is an interesting model. It is a knockoff of Honda FTR 223. Personally I think it is the best all around model for China touring. However, its reliability is highly doubtful, unless you replace the tires, wheel bearings, chain, rear shocks, etc., which may turn it into something halfway decent.
What about the Galaxy TGR250, because that's the model I would prefer to get?Quote:
Originally Posted by milton
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Dead and buried, Galaxy is not making the TGR anymore.
I've been scavenging all the spare parts I can find to keep mine running for a long time. One of the nicer China motos I've owned.
If you just need an enduro bike without registration, look for 正林250 or 新版正林YZR 250-A on Taobao.
Cheers!
ChinaV
You've had the XTR before as well right, any comment on the latest XTR models? The ADV版 model on their Chinese version of the website seems to have a slightly larger suspension travel than the other 2 models.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
I would prefer to get a bike I can register so.
Thanks,
Barry
Nothing wrong with the XTR, but if you're over 175cm tall and 85 kilos, you might find it a bit small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Non-linked suspensions work well on KTM's, but Shineray and Galaxy do not have the experience necessary to make them work correctly. If you're riding serious rough stuff, the linked suspension of the TGR seems to work better. If you're riding dirt roads and the occasional trail, the XTR will probably be fine.
Cheers!
ChinaV
KTM has gone back to linked suspension.
They must have seen the results Galaxy was getting with the TGR and decided to copy them. :lol8: :eek2:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdamo
Cheers!
ChinaV
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So.... Any luck with getting it registered?Quote:
Originally Posted by Murrance
I would be interested in that too! I asked one seller and he also told me the bike comes with CCC certificate but originally it's not. As for registration the authorities will also inspect/check the bike, so my guess is that they will find out it doesn't have CCC... proof me wrong, please. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePope
Update： I just contacted another seller and the young lady told me that all of their bikes have C3 and there is no problem to get them plated.
So i just asked if i can see the certificate and she wrote "==" (chinese for wait a minute)... that was an hour ago, still waiting.
I guess they will make a little collage for me now, sure this is time consuming. ;)
I was actually given a C3 certificate, however the engine numbers did not match my bike.
I discovered this while at my local Yangzhou police vehicle management facilities, well they pointed it out to me.
Something I should have checked before going there. I was able to ride away without to much fuss, the powers of the lowai.
HIndsight is 20/20. I should have paid the little extra to my seller for the fapiao (tax receipt).
Also, had I paid the little extra he was going to sort out the engine number issue.
I.E. polish it away and restamp the C3 engine number before shipping.
Sometimes they will place a new compliance plate on the frame somewhere.
Bottom line is, as long as the basic frame and engine numbers match your bike, the local police are not really going to know whether it is a 150cc or 250cc.
Anyways, I was not ever able to register my CQR because of this.
P.S. It is much better to be riding around on a bike without a registration plate, than to use a false plate.
A local family friend procured an old local plate of an old scooter, which I used on my CQR.
Until one day I hit a truck, fractured my foot, police came, took pictures, inspected my bike, deemed it illegal and took it away on the back of a small truck. I was told even though the truck was technically at fault, due to my shady plate I could not get any compensation from the truck driver. I was also told I must go to prison for 15 days and pay a 5000RMB fine due to using a fake rego plate. After a little negotiation we paid the traffic cop 1000RMB under the table, and he was even kind enough to give me the release papers for my bike so I could pick it up from the impound yard. Had I been rego plateless, they would have still confiscated the bike, but much less serious, a much smaller fine and ability to reclaim the bike from impound.
P.S.S. Yes my P.S. is off topic, but I possess a car factor of, I don't.
@ Murrance
What you experienced is what i'm aware of, so i want it all legally done.
The seller finally did send me a picture of the certificate... unfortunatly its unreadable, could also be a cooking receipt.
She told me that her cellphone is crap and that i could come by and check the certificate. Maybe i'm getting old and my eyes are not so good anymore:
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I asked her where they are located... surprise surprise Chongqing. I said that i'm in Kunming and also asked her why they advertised on a local website as a Kunming based company. No answer so far...