JK3 Rutts hutt started the bike nite on Wed again, trying to see if I can get the guys from PIT to come up with a few of the bikes and ride in :riding:Quote:
Originally Posted by JK3
kev, tom is a great guy in person. Knows his stuff he does
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JK3 Rutts hutt started the bike nite on Wed again, trying to see if I can get the guys from PIT to come up with a few of the bikes and ride in :riding:Quote:
Originally Posted by JK3
kev, tom is a great guy in person. Knows his stuff he does
Tom is great even not in person!
He had drilled out a pilot and sent it up to me. Was too big, fouled plugs and idle was crap. No big deal I figured he'd give it another shot. Nope. He says send me the carb to mod for regular Keihin pilots.
CCW + PIT +The Weave = :thumbsup:
i know Kevin, I really need to take another ride down there. I smell a road trip soon. :riding: Need to figure out what day i can take off of work :naughty:
Ok the bike has well over 400 miles on her so I did an Oil change, chain lube and tightened her out took her on a ride for better than 1.5 hrs and on the way home she sputters and dies on me on the local highway at my exit:eek2:
So i went from 60 -65 mph to sputter sputter dead. I coasted her to the shoulder and was wondering what the hell. Lucky for me I'm a quarter mile off the exit. So as I'm checking the bike I realize I dont her the swish swish of the gas tank. :confused1:
Yes ladies and gentlemen I am a dumb ass :clap: I checked everything else but the gas before my ride. I switched it over to the reserve and started her up after a few. and on she went and right to a gas station we stopped.
Yup thats my dummy move of the day.
Todays lesson: Check the Gas!
this has been your PSA of the day :thumbsup:
A shot from the Laughlin River Run yesterday in Laughlin, NV. CCW had a booth at the event!
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taking it for a test run after the oil change and chain lube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSUfMCQIlX8
I am commuting daily on my Heist and just broke 500miles...
See I'm jealous the tolls into NYC and Parking alone would kill me commuting daily, and I'm not about to leave my Widow on the street for 9 hrs in that hell hole. Saw a bike get knocked over by a Merc backing into a spot. the guy gets out looks at his bumper then Walks away. not even a "let me straighten the bike". If it wasn't for a college of mine I would've brained him on the spot and used him for a puck.
Rant over...
Anyhow I wish man, but as it is I'm looking at 3 days more rain and chilly in the low 60's down to the 40's at night
Lol Gardo on the gas thing! On the fancy bikes with fuel injection you get a low fuel light like your car, what fun is that!
Anyway, I went to PIT an Saturday and met all the guys. Just really awesome down to earth guys plugging away in their shop. Brett was awesome showing me around the operation they have going on and took the time to answer all of my questions.
I took the "land shark" Heist for a test ride and blasted around the shop for about 10 laps. The bikes look good, nice clean welds and good fit and finish. The steering is a little heavy at slow speeds but once you get moving I think the raked out front end is beneficial to such a light bike at higher speeds. Brakes felt solid and smooth, not spongy or too hard, basically no surprises. Got her into 3rd gear and the shifting was very positive and smooth, neutral is extremely thin and hard to find but that will probably come with more time once you get the quirks figured out. She felt just like I thought a 250 would, peppy, gets you going nicely, not much torque but hey its a 250. The seat on this particular bike was completely bottomed out and had no travel at all so anything resembling springs would be a bonus. The exhaust sounded really good in person and took me for surprise, not tinny and had a good tone. This particular bike was well tuned and ran great right off the bat with little to no choke during warm up. I think they are really getting the carb mods down with a re-jet, accellorator pump tweek in combo with their exhaust/chop mod. Being a bobber I absolutely have to have a kick start but unfortunately with the stock pipe it will never work unless they come up with some crazy extension to the shaft or how the kicker swivels out. It would also be nice if the US bikes had a regular MPH indicator. Just a note guys on your mileage, for some reason I thought they said the odometer is in KPH not MPH so you may want to re-calculate your mileage.
All in all a very good experience and a nice little bike, I'm pretty much sold.
Good stuff JK3, good report. i Tweaked the seat springs on my ride for a bit more travel. as far as MPH v KPH My Km is 732.8 which gets me at 455 miles in less than 10 days. But you are right on the speedo. looking to swap it out eventually
Well hope you enjoy it and would love to go out for a ride when you do :riding:
Thanks Gardo will do. No bike yet but very close. Will be talking with Brett this week about pricing and prep plus sourcing longer cables for some taller bars and a few other goodies. I think the traditional style seat springs would do nicely. The seat shocks look cool but I don't think they function all that well.
Its funny, I forgot to mention all the test ride bikes' rear tires had huge flat spots from Brett doing burnouts all the time lol! Crap I was spending so much time looking at the Heist that I didn't even look over the Misfit they had there.
Dude thats a great idea about the traditional springs will need to try that out
The Heist that I sat on had absolutely no travel in the seat springs and would be a very rough ride compared to the DF. No wonder Gardo wears a kidney belt.
Sounds like Pit is under cutting their dealers like they did with Gardo's purchase. I wonder if the Heist dealers are any protection from Pit?
Lol, You learn quick which bumps to stand up for! It's a hardtail, it's not gonna be all cush-cush. Seats are such a personal thing.
I'd suggest putting the seat on the middle mount and loosen the shocks up. If you bottom out tighten them up a turn at a time. If you pop out of the seat alot you went too far. If you can run the seat all the way back, it will smooth the shocks out even more.
I also tried traditional 3" springs. There are already holes in the frame for them. Not much difference, They did have more side-to-side flex, and zero adjustability. Looked better than the shocks tho!
If you go this route DON'T bolt the spring directly to the frame. Use some kind of a perch. I used a weld on spring perch that I drilled and tapped for a bolt from the bottom side. There are bolt on perches available as well: http://www.fabkevin.com/Seat%20Sprin...g%20Bungs2.htm
In the end I got a West Eagle Seat and lightest weight choppershox. Huuuuge improvement. My bike is - dare I say - comfortable.
Actually Vince all the sales that come into PIT get funneled to local dealers, just like they did for me. This way it keeps their dealers happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by barnone
I have customers asking about the modified throttle and brake lines. Let us know what you fin out please...Quote:
Originally Posted by JK3
Got a stupit question for yall....
Which bolt do you guys pull for an oil change?
I use the one on the bottom left side of the motor. It's a big chrome bolt, comes out with a spring and screen filter behind it. About 2 qts of fluid will drain from here. The manual says it needs 900ml (almost 1 qt.)
It looks like there's another drain plug underneath the motor. Seen from the right side, it looks more like these magnetic plugs you guys are using. If that's the one you're using how much fluid are you draining out?
I used the smaller bolt to drain the oil and popped the dip stick to get a faster flowQuote:
Originally Posted by Kb96gt
I got mine from here
plus my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoQzg3AXdBE&NR=1
Gardo,
Got any videos of paint drying?:lol8:
Actually you need to pull both places. The bottom one that Gardo pulled in his video is good for draining the oil but you need to pull the side one to clean the oil filter(wire strainer).
Kb98gt,
If you got two quarts out of the filter plug then you had way too much oil in your bike. Who put two quarts in it? You are lucky you didn't have some damage to your engine.
I believe the manual specifies 900cc or so for the amount of oil in the 167FMM. Put in one quart and then check it. Seems I had to add a little more to like 1200cc. My DF has a dip stick and a sight gauge and I assume the Heist has the same thing since they have the same motor.
barnone i actually added that to my discription when i uploaded that vid :icon10:
you are correct sir. now there is a DF vid by scooter depot that says the engine is a Zongshen 250cc v the Lifan 250cc. Outside the kickstart post on the Lifan I couldn't find any differences.
There is a site glass and dipstick. I was told 1qt 1oz for the motor. I accidentally added just a touch too much when I refilled
I just ran out to check, there was at least 1.5 qt in there, maybe a smidge more. I had the yearly inspection done a couple weeks ago and the dude was hyped on the bike, gave it a "check over". Probably "topped it off". Luckily it doesn't sound like it was that much over and I haven;t ridden much since. Actually hardly at all.
That's why I did a once over this weekend with new plug and oil. The bikes not running right now and it was too nice out not to touch it :icon10:
I was just reading through the manual over the weekend and it states 900ml... it's more like 1200 or almost a qt and a half. Must be a chinese 900ml. :lol8:
The rag they call a manual is written in chinglish.
Definition of chinglish: adj - lost in translation between Chinese and American English
Here's the seat spring setup I tried. There are existing holes on the frame to mount up to.
I liked it! I had tried this with the original CCW seat. It dropped the back of the seat down pretty far though. Maybe I'll throw them back on with the new seat and see how it feels.
http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/...seatspring.jpg
PAINT!
Painting the tank was crazy easy. Takes an afternoon of time and some supplies.
I used an airbrush and a craftsman pancake compressor.
I shot Autoair water based paint. They were available local and very affordable. I used a few different colors including a transparent smoke black, hot rod sparkle white, silver, and electric green. The 4 oz sizes were plenty for the tank. Use lots of reducer!
http://www.autoaircolors.com/
This is a blurry shot but you can see the sparkle over the transparent black.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/...bf02251b_z.jpg
The clear is a two part in a can. SprayMax 2 part rapid clear coat.Very gas resistant. It has a button on the bottom you pop before using to mix the two parts. Use a respirator, this stuff's nasty.
http://www.coastairbrush.com/products.asp?cat=610
Not hard to do at all. Get creative guys!
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/...b4ff641d_z.jpg
Great job on the paint Kevin!! I've used Createx paints in the past to airbrush helmets, graphics on tins and other stuff, very easy to work with. Those autocolors look real good, I'll have to try those out sometime. What kind of clear is that stuff, is it water or solvent based?
Nevermind I found it, 2 part urethane. I don't really paint that much anymore but I find that the most toxic stuff usually performs the best as far as durability goes. The water based clears they use on bikes now are crap.
Couple of videos of my ride home from work this past Friday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZTdE3U7XSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiCpW5WGhn8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKopkSdzZ-g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBzH_ywdcwk
Another Ride Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyqiOYsZhmw
after a week or more with the side mount tag I decided to take it off and put the plate back in the original spot. Weird how it just started to grate on me looking at it on the side. the bike looks so much better with with the lines uninterrupted. Little more old school to be honest. I got my Remove Before Flying key fob yesterday from 233 Motorsports, in Red, and right on the key it went looks good like that. A bit of humor in what tries to be a very serious bike. Was shipped quick and without issues through the webstore. Good looking site KTM
No riding this week the weather has been unpredictable at best, and today the winds were a bit too high for my comfort
Great job KTM! $65 for a Frisco Heist tank is crazy man, you got any?
No vid of the keychain Gardo?!? :icon10: joking man joking. Your bike sounds so awesome on video.
Warm and sunny up here in Boston. I'm starting to go loopy without riding, maybe a box from Weaver will show up for the weekend. I'll be sure to post up the carb mod Tom is doing. Fitting a normal Keihin pilot to the PZ30. Killer!
Happy Friday guys, be safe out there!
Happy Friday Guys. Nice Bright and sunny here in NYC as well :thumbsup:. I rode into work today from NJ. Was a bit chilly but that wasn't gonna sway me.:riding:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kb96gt
Kev you are such a comodian, but no vid.... yet :lol8:
Yeah I'm gonna be heading to see tom in a couple weeks or hopefully have them come up for a bike night before hand. thinking of a few performance enhancements to the bike. Sprockets, carb, and such. nothing drastic oooo maybe a turbo kit, and a forced air ram and and .... :eek2:
Heres a pic of the key fob on the bike
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...erx/keyfob.jpg