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Originally Posted by euphonius
Exactly that is also neatly put down in this analysis of the Chinese State owned car manufacturing enterprises, and their lack of success.
Interesting read.
http://www.chinacartimes.com/2012/01...urers-problem/
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Originally Posted by euphonius
Exactly that is also neatly put down in this analysis of the Chinese State owned car manufacturing enterprises, and their lack of success.
Interesting read.
http://www.chinacartimes.com/2012/01...urers-problem/
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Originally Posted by 998S
Thanks Milton for the work and leadership to move this thru to the ECU upgrade!
Thanks to Eric for your efforts, time and insights!
And thanks to the Jialing Factory guys who flew up to Shanghai from Chongqing to startup my bike, turn it off and provide diagnosis. :jerkoff:
As mentioned, I'm still in the US but will be conducting the upgrade when back in China - can I suggest an early March group ride for ice cream? Get the Ducati prepped Eric!
Well, the Ducati's are always ready ... but if you saw the weather here, you should prefer hot soup over an icecream :)
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Originally Posted by 998S
Then there's this: Chinese Motorcycle Industry Faces Headwinds To which I say: Hahahahahahahaha! Jialing's stock is down!! Hahahaha! How about learning some customer service and marketing skills. Serves you right, morons. 活该！
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February 6 -- China maintained its position as the world's largest motorcycle market for the 18th consecutive year in 2011 when it recorded 1.21 percent and 1.32 percent year-on-year increases in motorcycle production and sales to 27.01 million and 26.93 million units, respectively, reports Securities Daily, citing the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers.
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Despite the gains made last year, the industry was facing huge operating pressures, with total profits down 20 percent from a year earlier to 2.7 billion yuan. This led to motorcycle manufacturers seeking new sources of earnings.
The Chongqing municipality is the base of the motorcycle industry in China, accounting for 33.51 percent of the total industry patents, according to the report.
China Jialing Industrial (600877), a leading Chongqing-based manufacturer of motorcycles, recently issued a profit warning.
The company is forecasting a 2011 loss of 216 million yuan as it was affected by falls in the prices of passenger cars, the ban on motorcycles in some Chinese cities, and a rise in operating costs.
An unnamed analyst at a local brokerage attributed the difficulties faced by Jialing Industrial to the fact that it only has a single product and thus has limited ability to counter market risks. Sales of motorcycles and related parts accounted for 99.98 percent of the company's revenue.
The probability of Jialing Industrial achieving a breakthrough in its optical component business in the short-term is low, according to the report.
The company could increase exports in order to improve its operating performance, said an industry analyst.
However, an employee handling Jialing Industrial's international business, Zhu Xiaoman, said yuan appreciation had a negative impact on exports to the target markets of Africa and South America.
During the first half of 2011, the company generated revenue of 252.66 million yuan from exports, accounting for 19.2 percent of the total. The poor export performance was a major contributor to the Jialing Industrial losses.
According to the report, exports accounted for more close to 50 percent of the revenue earned by industry peer Linhai (600099) in the first half of 2011.
Shares of China Jialing Industrial were unchanged to trade at 5.08 yuan per share at 14:43 today.
Took my JH600 to Eric's this morning for expert's opinion on the ECU upgrade. Eric's has been an impartial third party watching us through our saga struggling with Jialing for resolving the stalling problem. After his test ride with the bike, he reached the same conclusion about the upgrade, which seems to have indeed eradicated the stalling. He also noticed that the bike is now running more smoothly and apparently more powerful than before. I guess based on this I will inform Mr. Liu 刘志东 about the success and pay him for the upgrade.
I also like to point out that Jialing did commit to the following prior to the upgrade in responding to our gripes:
1. it offered 3 sets of upgrade kits with decent discount for the first three guinea pigs brave enough for the undertaking.
2. Should the upgrade fail, it also offered to take back the upgrade kit without charging us.
This is probably the best a state-run Chinese enterprise knows how to behave and care for its customers.
For now at least I am a happy rider again, even in this cold and frequently wet winter.
Cheers!
If I look back at the very first time I entered this discussion (somewhere page 5 or so), we concluded soon that it was fuel related.
Building on that, we tried to optimize the V2.0 ECU on Milton's bike, which worked in a certain way, but limited by the fact that we could not enter the map to make specific changes.
It resulted e.g. in his bike running fine in the -5 to 15 degree outside temperature range, but starting to run worse outside that.
Well, after riding his bike yesterday, I can only confirm that the upgrade is the way to go for anyone who encounters the problems on the V2.0.
It runs smoother at any rpm, and it picks up much stronger in any gear.
We even rode it two-up to my favorite sandwich shop, and it is amazing how it pulls with all the weight on it.
The only downturn might be that it feels it runs out of top end power sooner (anything over 6K rpm), but that is an area you don't want to be too often anyway on a one cylinder.
Specially not with the increased power lower down the line.
So I can fully recommend this modification to anyone who faces the same problems as Milton, or anyone who just fancies the greatest latest...
A great end to a great thread!
Thanks for the update Milton. Really sad to hear about your little incident, but the silver lining is you were largely unhurt.
I am glad that JL made the offer - I had been bugging JL to do this very thing. And, of course, once it decided to ... it never told me. Oh well, I've asked the Beijing service center to see if I can get in on the "guinea pig deal"
As I've said before, I like the JH600 - but the stalling has GOT to be fixed.
Dear Richard,
Really hoping you can get your stalling sorted in the same manner as Milton, and we can reel you back into our happy band of Jialing fellow travelers.
cheers!
Barry and I just received our work-estimate from the Beijing JL disservice center.
2400 rmb (each)
Something's not right.
Will call JL (CQ) next week.