They don't pass the emission regulations or else I would have one and I would be most happy two stroker.
(Sorry for these necro replies, I can't help it, I found so good thread.)
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Oh FUCK, now I said it loud. I had hard time for one week when motorcycle maniac came back, and I spend time reading about Urals with sidecar. It was in my opinion just perfect for kids and me. I could give them very different experiences, which they would probably remember when they are adults and which could shape a bit what kind of persons they become. I did my best to get rid of the idea of kids, Ural, and me by thinking how stupid it would be to buy one now in this economical situation in Finland and how the mother of kids would kill me, my relatives would kill me, my neighbours would kill me, and everyone in this small village would kill me if I would take my two small girls in "very insecure" sidecar.
http://www.jawamotorcycles.co.uk/ima...ComboFront.jpg
I really wonder how they can sell those in UK, that is, does UK have some exceptions in EU emission regulations.
I knew this was made by Shineray, and that, was it in Thailand, they had rebranded version of it, but I though the original design came from France. http://www.mash-motors.fr/moto-mash-...00cc-noir.html
Drooled a lot after that bike, and still do. The markets has become way better than they were a few years ago. China has brough "innovations" in a way of copy catting old designs. This is what I hoped, and it has happened. It has refreshed very boring and sterile bike markets in Europe.
WTF! This could be my next bike very easily. So very cute! I could even forgive the casted wheels instead of spoked wheels, and that front mudguard near the front tyre, which can be dangerous in winter because snow can pack between the mudguard and tyre, which can lead into a locked front wheel in very slippery condition. The mudguard could be removed during winter and I could live with the cast wheels.
I don't need BMW 1200 GS. I want this cute beauty, so I can make some sort of from Poland to Murmansk to Nordkap to Savolax tour :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
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I am totally serious.
The ADV 150 aka Yingang 150 is a good bike, but...they a very seriuos problem with the fixing of the rear sprocket. The sprocket is fixed to wheel with cushion shoe of very bad quality (nr.6). They broke every 5000km...the owners take the ruber of and replace it with reinforced tube (for pressure washer).
But if you will drive it to Russia, you can buy there parts for him, it is known as Partizan 150.
http://maxmoto.pl/img/katalog/p37/p37-22.png
Maybe it is better to buy in Poland an original Shineray for 3500PLN (950$)?
http://olx.pl/oferta/cross-shineray-...tml#e69ef5fec1
Ah, that is good to know I would be pretty much good regarding parts in Russia with Romet. Thank you also for mentioning that cushion shoe issue. Does not seem to be a biggie to fix with better parts.
At least on the pics Romet have "kaatumaraudat", those damage preventing irons guarding clutch and front brake levers as well as guarding the engine from side and protecting turning lights in case of drop. Also Romet seems to have better bolts, they have that colour which predicts they don't corrode that easily. Romet costs a bit more, but it gives more value too. Besides I like the name Romet, it is almost Romeo, which is positively ironical for that bike.
I do believe that if I buy Romet I can find a dealer who speaks English and understands I need several documents for the bike so that I can register it in Finland, and who preferably sells it for me tax free because EU laws say that one must pay tax of a new vehicle to the country where one is going to import it. So, if the dealer does not sell it for me tax free, that means I have to pay twice the tax of the bike. Once for Poland and once for Finland.
Impoortant documents are a copy of a paper from manufacturer which says that this bike is what EU requires of a new bikes to be. I don't remember the official name of that paper even in Finnish now. It was something like "vaatimustenvastaavuustodistus". Detailed contract of sale is needed too.
But before all that I need to know what Polish laws says about private personnel buying a bike in order to export it away by driving at once, that is, can I register the bike for that in Poland. In Germany I could, but Poland is not Germany.
Edit: Forget to mention I am quite committed to fix my Skyteam, I made a decision I wont begin to hop on to a new bike, even though I would like a lot of the new bike. After I have fixed Skyteam I only need to apply for a Visa to Russia and I can do Murmansk – Nordkap tour. Next year I will do some touring.
2nd edit: It would be interesting to know what Russian police etc. say when they stop me, check papers and ask why you are driving to Murmansk and not to the nearest place where you can go to Finland, and I explain them that there is no such law which says I should cross the border at the nearest place, and henceforth I want to cross the border in the North instead of South, and that requires I go to Murmansk. On the other hand it would not be that interesting if thinking about all the stories of Russian police, but thinking them too much is racist, is it not, and eventually makes me want to stay in Finland alltogether or visit only countries where there is no certain "problems" with the authorities. And as a matter of fact, Russian police should be just cool if I say to them that Murmansk is the norhernmost Hero City, and I want to see it.
Will have to watch that movie, haven't even heard of it before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34qTK6KJZqg :thumbsup:
Thank you! Will watch it today :D
That’s a good movie, I need to get it with English Subtitles, though. I figured since all the characters were speaking different languages watching it would be like watching a silent movie, it was, however you have to read the narratives others wrote to fully understand it. The humor will be revealed in the subtitles, so I will get it on DVD and then watch it again.
Don't bother with DVDs.
Here's movie - http://rutor.org/torrent/26897/kukushka-2002-dvdrip . Click on "Скачать Kukushka.torrent".
English subs are here - https://dailysubs.net/%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B1%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8/uk/Kukushka.en.srt/308476/3167477
If timing is not OK, use "Subtitle Workshop".
Thanks, I am learning Russian...one word at a time, first word,'пошел ты'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWbZER5gcnU
Those are two words, with extra two as continuation of the sentence. :lol8:
я знаю
Красава, чёрта лысого ты знаешь. :lol8:
Кстати, хватит оффтопить.
Was indeed a good movie, refreshingly different. Was probably filmed near Murmansk, somewhere in Kola peninsula. Must go there by a bike :D
They are getting those for cheap...
Off topic here is a a listing for what looks like a copy of a Honda Dream 50cc DOHC, though the rating is not what that engine had? However the bike looks to have a DOHC engine?
Wuxi Nooma
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...c97bd2979b.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...9bae3acc9e.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...3f318b2267.jpg
They also have this "coffee bike" sic
It has a rating of 7.8hp which would be really good for a 50cc.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...NEW-DESIGN.jpg
That engine is unusual, I have never seen it before, the DOHC the others look to be standard engines.
Honda Dream
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...-2-858x570.jpg
Once again a "marketing Person" got the specs mixed up.
These people have a 50cc, a horizontal type that is about 3hp typically.
The 50cc DOHC vertical, is there, it is mixed in with the wrong specs and also models with standard OHV vertical engines, dogs dinner again, typical and really self defeating.
In order to sell well in markets that have demographics of avg. male heights of 5’ 10”, models should have 1450 mm wheelbases, 32” seat heights and really good power to weight ratios. The later a matter of using advanced metallurgy, light weight alloys. Also the fit and finish need to be exemplary as well as the product support.
Not that difficult of a nut to crack, improving the industries behind the manufacturing will take time. The ideal way to get there is to set higher and higher standards of everything. Eliminating the lessor grades and establishing the higher grades, the result could be much better products and for lower than average market prices.
DOHC head as a "bolt on" solution for common C-moto engines would be interesting way to increase power on the cheap.
But appears that this kind of enthusiasm is rare occurrence among Chinese manufacturers. :sad:
I remember the mad toolmaker who fitted a 4 valve head from a VT250 onto a CB125 engine just because he had a lathe, a mill, a surface grinder, a tig welder, a valve cutter, a dynamic balancer and a long cold winter. But a bolt on kit it was not.
Also, as the head was water cooled he had to adapt a washing machine water pump and build an aluminium radiator.
This is the kind of stuff that goes on in NZ because there is a race class for 150 cc bikes which allows any modifications but no competition engines. So you can build it but you cant buy it.
You can get DOHC kits they are not inexpensive, Takegawa has one for the horizontal 125cc takes it to 20-22hp it retails for about 2k USD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKbvjJuRTo
There is also a company called KOSO that makes DOHC and 210cc cylinder kits for Yamaha 125cc scooters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EdMTdjz_A
Hehe, we are getting closer to half a Ducati engine…
http://www.daxdodo.com/catalog/images/desmo.jpg
Unfortunately the retail prices are ridiculous
I think Junak will not sell this one. They had Plans but it doesnt go right.
Dollar is not cheap. Since yesterday Poland has BBB- rating because of our insane new president with his crew (PIS).
This all suggest that the importers will sell more of the cheapst crap in the next few years.
Junak is claiming that they had twenty percent of all motorcycle sales in 2015, sold 9000 units.
The Yuan fell against the Zloty, in that more can be purchased or that the Zolty goes further than it did in the past year. It’s likely that the manufacturers will raise prices to shift that variance to themselves, however the industry is very competitive.
The business models should be multifaceted and is just that it needs to be better defined.
Junak has no exclusivity in their products and sources, they whether they accept it or not are part of a much larger interrelated process that process needs to be refined and in that better defined and managed.
Overtly nationalistic politicians getting visceral is nothing new, playing into gut feelings is not the same are taking the smart approach, sometimes the dumb asses win, they need to from time to time just so people can see the real difference, but then again dumbness is very stubborn.
I would like to see Junak and AJS have some products that were unique to their brands, not at the cost of Lifeng which also deserves to have a piece of the market. More and multiple brands, sharing a common system is how I see it being better defined and in that more manageable.