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Zhejiang Jiajue Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd.
Jiajue holds the number fifty position in top 50 motorcycle exporter of China, as of April 2012.
Representing an estimated annual sales of around 18,500 units for 2012, that is an increase over YTD last year of 63%.
Jiajue ranks 47 out of the Top 50 in production as of June 2012.
They are the supplier of some of the scooters offered under the brands Qlink Motors and also MotoMia.
They offer some 250cc sport bikes as well....neither seems to be showing up in the above products lines though?
The Motrac 250 and Motrac 250 N10
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...MOTRAC_N10.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y.../Motrac250.jpg
These two models in these images seem to be sporting different engines, the above appears to be the Zongshen SOHC 4-valve 250 and the lower the Yingang 250cc DOHC 4-valve 250.
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I found the N10 on Alibaba, the Japanese Language version.
Along with a shameless copy or altered photo of the CBR250R Honda.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y..._250CBR250.jpg
Jiajue
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I will be candid, having your own private brand may seem ideal but its a panacea.
MotoMia and Qlink should be the names of distribution companies, they should sell the brands of the manufactures.
The manufacturers need to realize that offering exclusive contractual rights to all sales in a geographic market is actually the ideal.
The distributors can and do sell multiple brands already, what is missing is brand name services. Offering all the brand under a common system offers the ideal in greater economy of scale and in that reduces the cost of the operations. Simply put it is cheaper buy the dozen and distribution operations are functions that are not brand specific.
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Have you noticed Motrac 50, with the same aggressive design, but with a small horizontal engine? :icon10:
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Yes, with that 50cc engine the brake system seem to be overkill, not to mentions the style is not consistent with a 50cc engines capability in general.
I was reading about the investment company that owns the former HD property in Capetown. I really like the design of the building. MotoMia leases the store front. That is something for the investors to consider, since that building has its costs and the costs are offset by rentals/leases,. If Mototmia owned the building then they utilize the residential rentals above the storefront to cover or offset the costs of the dealership. Rentals as apartments are more reliable income and also leverage capital easily that being banks like to loan for the building of rental units. The storefront are often difficult to keep leased, banks do not like loaning to open motorcycle dealerships.
In an urban area that MotoMia storefront is ideal, if the actual building was owned by the same owner of the distributor, as a investment group, then the rentals could pay the sites mortgage and other related costs. Then the store front could be theoretically free for the dealership or simply put have an operating cost advantage.
That is diversification, each site of a dealership being a more diversified investment.
A single distributor offering distribution services that also sets up dealers in investment properties that they own.
What is missing is factories that are ready to offer exclusive contracts. So the factories them selves need managed services as well, they need process control consulting in production management, inventory control and logistics. They need to refine them to fit into the marketing and distribution systems.
The Chinese should be able to wrap their heads around that, many of the Groups that own the manufacturing also own real-estate, some build factories, not only for their manufacturing but for others and they also develop and build the housing that workers live in. .
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The system is crazy that the Chinese use, I can find the Motrac listed on so many sites it is not funny, seriously not funny, its actually disturbing.
Here is Group that is one of their biggest pimp daddies, they are called Wenling Import and Export Company, LTD. Also Wenling Leeway Import & Export Co., LTD.
Racing Bike 250
http://www.wlie.cn/upimg/201152521551926716.jpg
Check the URL water mark on the image, it’s a dead link, its actually redirect to a dead link www.dirtbike.com that is owned by these people, http://www.fabulous.com/ they pimp it out with add links and if you want they will sell it to you. Is that an intentional side business LOL?
The bike in the image has a Yingang engine or they embossed the engine with the Yingang name?
They likely just call the factory and order the bikes for purchasers from them? Then arrange the shipping to you? You could order a container half Motrac and the other half YGR because they list the Yingang models as well. I think it is from the school of it does not hurt to try, the same one that teaches that there are no dumb questions? When in fact the wrong approach can hurt and there are in fact dumb questions.
If this companies site simply offered products by brand names and if they had a exclusive distribution right to the manufacturers brand then it would all be much more legitimate. They could offer the logistics and communication with the factory as a professional service, but that would require professionals wouldn’t it?
Could be Wenling Services and then offer a client list that included Yingang and Jiajue as well as others. But what is really missing is a system for aftermarket support, that’s a huge glaring gap in a value chain.
Ideally there could be one entity in china and one entity in each regional market, selling manufactures brands connected formally with explicate contracts.
If a company wants the exclusive right to distribution then it must offer complete managed services, it must do that by having a complete understanding of the laws and relative regulations in those markets The linked relationships must be contractual and binding in both countries?
It’s funny are the sales growing doing it illegally, because much of what I am seeing is illegal, not offering the manufactures names, false claims for values and certificates it goes on and on, it not unintentional its all intentional.
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Asiawing offers the 250 & 150 models in they line up.But i am curious if they are just reselling the models and just put the decals on it. At the beginning i was amazed by Asiawing but since i saw then, they have been selling other companies products but just there 450 model.
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MJH
Yes, with that 50cc engine the brake system seem to be overkill, not to mentions the style is not consistent with a 50cc engines capability in general.
Italians have produced all kinds of 50 cc overkills so far, but with feisty 2T Minarelli motor. It's old recipe how to make adrenaline bomb for teenagers. But this Motrac, with 4T engine which is "calm as grass"...
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MJH
The system is crazy that the Chinese use, I can find the Motrac listed on so many sites it is not funny, seriously not funny, its actually disturbing.
And after all this time, you're still surprised to such matters?
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I like the N10 concept , but not the tri-color theme it has. I would like to see it with the white and blue parts in red? I think the they have some problems with points of transition between all the different materials?
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...MOTRAC_N10.jpg
Similar motorcycle made by Dongben, not sure why they call it a 300 it’s a 250cc engine same as the Yingang.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...MOTORCYCLE.jpg
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So if you are interested in 250cc water cooled and also the 450cc water cooled engines, then that configuration is a good option, that being an NK?
I do not think a 50cc engine option is the right direction, but a 450cc option that’s a whole other market.
I would work up a more refined N10 and change its name to N2.5 and then N4.5, I am not sure about the Asiawing 450 I have not heard anything good about that engine.
There are a cople of options for the 250 the DOHC 4-valve and also the SOHC 4-valve that is Yinggang or Dongben and Zongshen respectively as sources. The bikes should be developed to take the 250 and also the 450 and then test them both.
Look at how miserably Megelli failed to bring a decent small displacement Chinese sport bike to the global market and then think twice. They have to be bullet proof, big wish, they also have to be mass produced and really low cost and then really priced low to sell them.
But without a smart system that is also sustainable for the long term, its all lessons in futility. Selling their brand names is the best approach. So is having exclusive contractual rights to distribution. So is building a distribution network that is tangible as in part of a diversified real estate investing.
Owning the dealers and also owning the distribution system, then selling access to it under contract?
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I should not shoot my mouth off about Megelli, they just launched a new website, so they must have caught their second wind?
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here is a CBR250R just incase anybody did not notice how these are rip-offs of the Honda.
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/317295.jpg
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Jiajue also had a 450cc version on display, not sure but have read that they call it the “Highway Superman”
Here is the motorcycle.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...o_1212_012.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...aysuperman.jpg
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So it's the Shineray water-cooled 250cc single reverse engineered engine? They claim 170km/h top speed!? :lol8:
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Even 190 km/h...
Down a steep slope. :icon10:
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It’s all awkward to me, but they are trying.
Here is the website for MOTRAC and they have the Asia Wing 450 on the site, so it is pretty obvious were they are getting the 450cc they are slipping into the Highway Superman Sport model.
http://www.motrac.cn/products_list.html
The 125cc version has a Lifan engine 156MI?
http://www.lifan.com/English/Industr...6-f55ff2362c91
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It is rather serendipitous as they collectively attack Honda by coping the CBR models, they simultaneously all undercut each other. In all the fracturing of supply lines and crossing back and fourth it all becomes ridiculously unaccountable, who makes it, everybody makes it, never a straight line to any parts or servicing documents, because its all so goofy.
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I think it's very amusing that these manufacturers are trying to copy the Honda CBR250R as the only thing that really sells that bike is Honda reliability and quality, other than that I (and many others) prefer a sportier twin like the Suzuki and Kawasaki Ninja 250cc/300cc models. I just think street bikes should be twins. Looks and sound better IMO. I'd never want another single unless I was doing enduro or dirt riding.
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IMO, even sporty (preferably half faired) thumpers can be interesting. Remember Gilera Saturno 500 or Yamaha SZR 660?
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I like that single, but to date the best version IMO is this, I would like one in Benelli green.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ng/benelli.jpg
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Here's motorcycle/scooter hybrid from Jiajue marked as JJ250-7.
Attachment 9610
It is true that he is not on the list of models that are currently produced and this is only a computer rendering, but still - seems that Jiajue plans to produce similar hybrid.
In my opinion, this Jiajue has much more appealing design than similar hybrids from CF Moto - V3 and V5. Nevertheless, I do not understand why they so much insist on the cruiser bike "form factor". Some details of the hybrid reminded me of the old Aermacchi Chimera, and then at some other designs, in which could be "packaged" mechanics of Jiajue hybrid, such are Ariel Leader, or even bit "fresher" Suzuki SW1. I think that in the "form factor" of classic motorcycle there is a bigger niche for these hybrid.
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Yeah those are interesting, the Suzuki was the newest made in 1992.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...himera_250.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...iel-Leader.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ns/SW-1-02.jpg
It is not uncommon in the auto industry to re-skin vehicles, then sell them under another brand name.
The underpinnings can be shared and the exterior appearance different, that is all about standard mounting points for body parts.
They can retain some economy of scale in doing that, sharing engines and mechanicals, but altering the appearances.
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Another exercise in re-branding.
1) create a name that somebody already has rights to.
2) set up half functioning website
http://www.motrac.cn/products_list.html
Jiajue does not rank in the top 50 manufactures in China.
They rank 49th out of 50 top exporters for 2012
The Zhejiang JiaJue Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
23,569 Month to date (units) Nov 2012
14,544 The same period last year
62.05 Growth rate ( % )
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This is awesome. Just look at that jet fighter style engine case.
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That is the Aermacchi Chimera
When faced with the growing interest in the Japanese imports, Harley bought Aermacchi and introduced some of the bikes in the USA, these were called Sprints, they came in 250 and 350cc versions.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...0c670612d6.jpg
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Interesting. I found they did "scramblers" too, if I am not mistaken of the word used to describe this style.
http://www.gregwilliams.ca/wp-conten...ermacchi_1.jpg
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Yeah they were not very popular bikes back then…Harley had financial problems in 2008 and began cutting and owning the factory were the bikes were made once again was short for them, they sold off the factory in 2009.
Once Honda introduced their 350 models there was no hope for the Sprints.
This what comes out of that factory today, well one of the bikes they make anyway.
Raptor 125 a 15hp 2-stroke.
http://i78.servimg.com/u/f78/11/58/72/31/2007_c11.jpg