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Geely is offering some interesting retro styled scooters.
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Geely Group Zhejiang Motocycle Co., Ltd
Went to Geely motorcycles down in lower Zhejiang in Taizhou, it was 18 months ago. I posted about it at the time on MCM. Sorry to say but the products were far from quality, the assembly line was surrounded by lots of bikes in various states of assembly, frames were stacked at one end, and that allowed me and a mate to check out the welding... fair to poor. When I visited CFMoto unannounced, the two factories and facilities were chalk and cheese.
Geely like many manufacturers put together nice looking pictures of products that often differ in quality compared to real tactile products, photoshop is a highly regarded product with a cult following in China IMO.
I will never buy any Geely bike... YMMV.
However, it should be acknowledged that their website has become, shall I say - normal. A few years ago, only a true masochist could browse it more than five minutes. :icon10:
What drew my attention, is model JL150-14, underbone a-la Honda Sonic/Yamaha Spark/Suzuki Satria, with "vertical engine". As expected, this is CG clone.
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Somehow, among C-motos, these underbones are not as frequent as those with a horizontal engine. Apart from this Geely, I know only for Lifan LF 125-26D - http://www.zr.ru/a/88501
Geely Group has its work cut out for them, their global site contains a section; Brands and Products.
That section does not cover all the brands and products that they manufacture as a group, the scooters seem like a step child the two wheeled division stands detached. Its not only that, their chosen brand names are….or come off as childish, for lack of a better term. Gleagle, Emgrand, Englon even Geely all seem to be sort of a play on English words. The other brands are listed on the Chinese site though, under a section titled Marketing Center. But still nothing about the scooters.
Most likely are aware that Geely acquired Volvo Automobile from Ford in 2010.
Here is some links on that and its progression/digression.
Sort of a play or not, but "Emgrand" EC7 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5I2nvg1zTY ) is best selling Chinese sedan in Russia. :deal:Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
Back to the bikes.
O how nice it would be that this is not "Photoshop": allegedly, "Geely" JL 200-2.
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I see the QJ 4 valve 200cc in that image...
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They only added a few things, they added a larger fairing and and some fake trellis, kind of looks like what they do on the UM X-Street.
Geely Motorcycles, a division of Geely Automotive, make inferior motorcycles IMO, based on what I observed when I visited the Geely MC factory in Taizhou. Wouldn't touch one with a 10' barge pole.
But YMMV
QJ's making 4 valve GS clones!? That's new for me! Do they pump out close to 20 h.p.?
It is strange enough that large companies as "Geely" neglected one of its branches, especially when progress in the car making is more than evident, from the very unfinished and raw compact sedans CK, through MK family, to the present "Emgrand" branded sedans and crossovers.
Geely may eventually capitalize its 2 wheelers, that being invest in them and improve them? QJ has this 4 valve head for a 200cc it produces around 17hp I believe, it would be the engine in the RKV Factory.
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They also have a 125cc 4 valve DOHC that is rated at 15hp.
http://www.ksr-moto.com/tl_files/mod..._tr_125_sm.jpg
KSR MOTO TR 125 SM
Geely and QJ share something, they both made major investment in brand name acquisitions. In that Geely could purchase from QJ as an OEM and offer motorcycles under its brand name. That is what I get out of an image of what I know is a QJ model advertised as a Geely. However it is only a single image and not much more.
ohh.. wow! I'm really interested.. Are they available in India?
Forbes: Volvo's China Billionaire Owner Plans To Buy Stake In Motorcycle Maker
http://www.forbes.com/sites/russellf.../#7430da4d76ec
Kind of vague, beyond that Geely Holdings paid for a 29% share of the company.
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...g-Motor/page23
Who owns the other 71%? The 29% was purchased “from Qianjiang’s state-owned parent.”
If the company is now fully private, then the government took the money and left. That is not likely what happened, more likely is that QJ got infused with 166M and the remaining shares are still held by the parent company, which is a government holding company.
Now they have capital to work with and the government relinquished a minority share to Geely Holdings.
I highly doubt that the government sold off all of its interest, because if it did then that would leave QJ cash strapped. Selling it off completely would be about taking that capital and leaving. I cannot imagine QJ is profitable they have been on a spending spree and it is unlikely they have recovered that investment. It is more likely they ran out of capital and the government holding company refused to keep funding them.
So in result a private investor came in and offered up 166m for a share of the company.
http://www.investing.businessweek.wa...urrency=native
Volvo sales are up and Geely announced that they intend on creating a third brand, they intend on utilizing the Volvo platforms for all three brands, the new brand will be their attempt to compete with other JV companies which is considered within China as the middle market. They have not released the name of the new brand it is being referred to only as “code L”.
Geely’s motorcycle division, has not even been mentioned in the press. They have for about a year been advertising re-badged QJ models on their website.
JL150-40
http://www.geelybike.com/pic/big/88_0.jpg
The Wonjan Space Rangers have morphed into the Geely product line, however they have a 400cc twin instead of a 300cc single. These are being marketed also under the affiliated Jiming brand. The engine is the same that is also being advertised in a Motrac version.
http://www.geelybike.com/html_produc...1A(V)-152.html
The readers’ comments on this in Chinese are humorous, one points out the lack of alignment of the mufflers, they sit uneven, they question were the bike was assembled North Korea? I suspect the problem is that of metal and it changing shape when heated, that being the mufflers may have been level to each other at assembly, then moved out of alignment to each other?
A solution would be a bracket that they all aligned on, that would hold them level.
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