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Yingang 重庆银钢科技（集团）有限公司
17th largest motorcycle manufacturer in China, had a 3.32% gain in production for the first half of 2013.
YG offers the YG250-NF
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YG has set up a separate website for this model, highlighting it, the site also offers online parts purchasing.
ONLINE PARTS ORDERING
The YG250-NF is sold in Russia through Patron as their Taker 250
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Also offered as the G1 NAKED by Gilera in Argentina
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More info please!
How come the power output of this bike is in the 25HP, while other bikes of 250cc are in the 11-18HP range?
Is it really THAT much more powerful???
Top speed?
MPG?
Stock sprocket setup?
Sprocket change recommendation?
It is on their website, http://www.motorunicorn.com/Product.aspx
Yeah, but are they bloated numbers, or can we expect this bike to blow the DongFang 229cc engine straight out of the water, with almost double the HP?
I believe alot of it has to do with liquid cooling?
That engine is Honda AX-1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NX250 clone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProDigit
4-valve DOHC engine unlike the 2-valve SOHCs in the vast majority of Chinese bikes.
anyone come to the 12th CIMA show from 17 Oct to 20th Oct? yingang is in N8 hall.
is MJH coming to the 12th CIMA show. it is much better than all its predecessors. it is in the new expo centre. YINGANG is in hall N8. anyone come, please talk to me from 18th onwards. I will be there until 20th. raymond
I wanted to order one from MX-Motorsports in Miami, but they removed the product from their webpages. Now there is no US dealer anymore selling them as far as I know.
MX mentioned the lousy customer service, no parts, and this bike in particular will bring paper problems in Florida, as there has not been one registered before.
Instead they recommended me the DongFang D250RTC-B, which is a lower powered, 5 geared 229cc naked bike. I've ordered it, but also that has paper problems, and was seemingly not in stock.
Yingang no longer have a distributor in the USA….they would surely like one but there seems to be no takers.
There really are very few distributor in the USA the ones that there are mostly sell very low grade products and primarily online. Every thing is virtual for the most part, except services and support for that there is virtually none.
They seem to do better with the PIT Bikes and ATV’s in the USA.
There is a Hisun labeled a Coleman UTV sitting in my local wholesale club. I thought to myself for over 8k and no local servicing who would buy it? Then I thought… hey….I think that was one of my ideas? Coleman as a brand name? Then I wondered if they have a website…they do and then wondered if they have online parts? They do….but not with prices and not linked to a shopping cart….
Then wondered do they have a service center near me….not within a hundred miles? I think would never buy one in a hundred years.
Then I wonder… how come they are allowed to sell these in a state that they do not even have a single service centers in?
I wonder why I bothered to write this....
http://colemanatv.com/en/
Its been well over a year and the Coleman website now has parts listed and indexed AND YOU CAN ORDER THEM DIRECTLY ONLINE.
sorry man, there is no Yingang dealer at the moment, if you have a yingang product, and need parts, please write to me raymond@yingangmotor.com. it is difficult to see good Chinese product like Keeway, Qingqi, Jianshe and etc. in the future, we are looking for a stable dealer pay attention to the businessQuote:
Originally Posted by ProDigit
I don't understand why the similar priced DongFang D250-RTC-B has so much lower specs, more plastic, less steel, and why dealers would still go with it, and not the Yingang.
As far as parts, I don't understand why a dealer can not buy a lot of these bikes; from 30, there's bound to be one that's bad, and gets returned. If so, the bad one could be used and sold for parts. Selling the bike in parts should give more profit, than selling it as a unit.
most of Chinese motorcycle importer in the USA do not have o service capability. they are just business man. they can not handle high tech bikes. just want buy and sell. I have done a market research on the 250 we exported to the USA, in 2011. the biggest problem is on service.if the factory has not got people in the USA, it will be hard to do the business.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProDigit
I have no plans for going to the CIMA, I have no plans for visiting Asia anytime soon.
I understand that Yingang has intentions to copy the Jialing 600 single and use that engine in the YG250 Challenger frame.
The last thing that I want to do is alter event horizons, I fear that, I think that some should be left to make the decision and the results to be seen. So I cannot say that I would or would not choose that direction.
However any direction should be multifaceted and in that simultaneous, that being not only one single focus but many separated focuses progressing simultaneously.
YG not perusing a motocross standard 250 was disheartening to me.
We all know that the 250cc engine is viable and we see it in Xinuan and its associate Daelim, they are expanding on that engine. The later Korean brand has released a very nice version they call a Daystar.
http://www.motofichas.com/novedades/...ystar-250.html
http://www.motofichas.com/images/sto...aystar-250.jpg
To me what is missing is a street standard with that engine that is more classic in lines.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload...%20660%20S.jpg
Then perhaps having a 600cc to add to the line or more complete line would justify the development of another engine, if the frames to receive them were all already developed for the 250cc engine.
Then the line of 250 double upward to a 600cc line as well.
One distinct advantage I see in Xinyuan and Daelim is that they have better fit and finish, the engine cases have a finish on them that look high quality, their bikes may not be anymore reliable or durable but they certainly look more refined.
None of the companies seem to have any decent distribution systems, they have no good supply chain systems to the vendors in the markets. That type system which should be linked and offer up turnkey interfaces is simply not there yet.
I could mange developing such a system, I spent the best part of three years researching the industry and its culture and procedures….or lack of.
the Daelim custom bike is just so so. the Photo SANGLAS model is much more attractive. yingang started to research this engine from end of 2001. and first in production in 2007. before 2004, yingang hold 50% share of Dongben, therefore dongben also have the engine previous to 2005 version. in 2007 Yingang sold 57 units to shineray(xinyuan). and end of 2008 shineray copied the engine. only on the looks, the bike can not reach this reliability and power delivery. in 2012 yingang started to sell 250NF in China with Homologated to Chinese National III standard. in 2013 actually, yingang will put a new version of 250NT to the domestic market. for yingang engine reliability and performance, in this Site Tom 'futianshenzhen' has done quite a lof of mikes on a 2010 Carb version. Yingang is the only one to sell this engine on a bike in China. where yingang has good network of distribution. for shineray, what you can see is only the looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
for other countries, this model need a strong importer with capability to offer real good after service. normally, it is difficult to find. there are not many serious motorcycle importers, most of whom are just business man. it makes long term money with long term investment, however, most business man will not do long term investment on motorcycle business.
by the way, I have to say the new 600cc will not be a copy to Jialing 600.
I may open a pay for the CIMA 2013 in Chongqing. however, I am too busy and not guarantee to do this. therei will be more exciting models coming out on this show. Jialing, Zongshen, Keeway(QJ), HAojue Suzuki and even honda will have new models on this show.
hope this are more chinese motorcycle riders can ride good chinese motorcycle all over the world.
Since it's been raining almost every day in the year in Florida, I gave up long distance travel with a bike.
I'm now going elio motors!
(Reverse trike, with closed cockpit, AC, radio, comfy chair, comfy ride, and 84MPG).
Yeah I really enjoy Oberdan Bezzi's modern rendition of the old Sanglass, Oberdan's renderings are online @ http://motosketches.blogspot.com/201...1_archive.html
Raymondgz, you should contact Wade Liu at Excalibur Motorsports www.atv4usa.com to get your bikes back in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by raymondygz
He distributes the TMEC 200 enduro for the US as well as other bikes (he is the exclusive distributor for the TMEC enduro), and side by sides/quads.
He travels to China a few times a year, and perhaps is even going to the upcoming trade show? I am not even a dealer (Excalibur is a wholesaler) but have received personal service for various parts for my TMEC from him and his sales manager Alan. Perhaps he would be interested in bringing your lineup, or even select bikes, such as your 250NF back to the US. I remember a few years ago he was selling the Xingyue 400 adventure bike to his retailers (although he was not pleased with the bike's quality and dropped it from his lineup).
They did a very good job revising these....
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I think the rise on the bars is too much, should be less and the handle bars finish could be black and also the forks in black, either black or brushed aluminum. Other then that it really looks pretty good. Oh and the tank might also be a bit too high, it has been described in Mandarin as kind of camel like.
Yingang updated its website…they converted the old English language site to the new Chinese language sites format.
Their page on NewMotor
They made a nice looking Dual Sport
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Here is a Taobao vendor selling these, they claim that they can sell you one with a 200cc engine that is a Yamaha “Vortex”, to the best of my knowledge that would be a 2-stroke engine and likely something is lost in the translation.
It could be that the bike can be ordered with a 169FML which is a Yingang OHC 200cc an over square engine. Its possible that they are importing a VBF Vortex engine from Japan as the AD states but it is probably just another lie, they tell an awful lot of lies. Basically many of them will say anything to make a sale. They get crazy evasive and defensive when called out on it too.
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Yingang showed off its 600cc single version of it sport bike at ECIMA 2013
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Here is an image of a Jialing 600cc single.
http://www.moto-station.com/ttesimag...teur_st1pz.jpg
another image of the YG600
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On the cover for the chain you can see a indentation, were on the Jialing is the swing arm pin, that indentation or cut out is still present on the YG600. However on the YG600 the starter was moved to the front of the engine were on the Jialing it is behind the engine. I think they are the same engines just modified in how they are configured into the different bikes.
Not sure what to think about that…. What is it a 36hp 600cc? It has allot of torque. I suppose if it was priced under 30k Yuan it sell in China, but I have to wonder if the people at Jialing would have anything to say about that engine? It has to pass emissions and in that Jialing invested some capital in their model and it has not sold well to date, to my knowledge it has not.
I do not believe that the purchasing criteria is that different in the markets across the globe, the difference are not real they are all based on forced compromises. A 36hp 600cc single is not desirable to anyone unless nothing else exists within a reasonable price range. Which means the price of the YG600 would have to be very low and in that would it be worth consideration?
Its like stew that has all kinds of ingredients, pride and embarrassment, not sure what it taste like or even if anyone will be willing to taste it, if some are salivating then in that they must be very hungry?
thank you mate for your suggestion. to do this bikes' service is not easy. I have studied all of American Chinese motorcycle importers, I have not found any suitable one for distributing this bike yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by culcune
the 600cc is just an engineering prototype. to show to Chinese riders. Thumper has its own characteristic. there are people like big bore single. this model will not be should in China in 2014. if it is sold, it will be in Efi. the main product is still the 250NT
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I really like the looks of this new Unicorn. I think in Mid-February, I'll be looking to make the purchase. It will be my first bike purchase in China...so here's hoping it goes smoothly :)
on your data, it shows that you are in chengdu. Unicorn has a dealer in chengdu. you can buy and service there.Attachment 14894. if you do not speak and Chinese, you can write to me raymond@yingangmotor.com. or you can register on the official website and buy online, pay by online banking. and you will collect the bike in the dealer's shop. for a legal registration, you need to provide a Chinese citizen ID, the invoice will be issued under his ID number and for regestration.by the way, it doesn't where you buy the bike, you will get first 3 services free of charge at 300KM, 1000KM and 2000KM. it includes change engine oil, clean filters and safety check. they will all be done in the shop. http://www.motorunicorn.com/SellNet.aspx you can fine all the unicorn dealers in China. if you travel around china, every dealer will offer you nice service.Quote:
Originally Posted by effertime