Anyone planning China - Europe trip next year?
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Anyone planning China - Europe trip next year?
I am. I'm planning on leaving at the beginning of July. I think there are two others here as well. Where are you in your plans?
Hey. I hoped there will be someone here. I'm in Malaysia, thinking to do Kuala Lumpur Poland. I don't want to do it all alone so I thought I could meet with some chinese bikers. Whats your route? I was thinking about more arabic route than russian, with Kirgistan loop. What will you buy? You're seriously considering Jailing 150gy3? It could make it if you re lucky ;)
That would be great! At the moment im planning on doing most of it alone and it would be great to have someone to ride with. Take a look at my website. I have my route mapped out there. Im going to do russia, but i am american so i also cant do Iran so I plan to cross kyrgyzstan, tajikistan uzbekistan turkmenistan and take the caspian sea ferry to azerbaijan, georgia and turkey. I don't think i have the money to go into europe so I'll stop there.
Im almost positive that I'll get a Shineray x5. There is a really good post on it here under dirt/dual sport.
What will your plan be for getting in and out of China? You can't bring a bike in without paying a ton of money for a tour and you'll need some kind of registration paper to cross borders.
I tried Shineray x5 once. I think it's great. I'm not planning china. I have just left it in August. I thought we could meet somewhere on the way but... I was thinking more of thailand-bangladesh-india-pakistan-kirgstan -uzbekistan-turkemenstan -iran-azerbaizhan-georgia-turkey. but i didnt plan it yet more closely. And I was thinking about maybe april. Still long way to go so much can change. and who are the other two? Whats their plan?
Sounds pretty cool. My contract here ends at the end of June so I couldn't go earlier but lets keep in touch. It seems like at least our routes through the stans are mostly the same.
Hi,
We are the other two!!!
We plan to go from Shanghai to Europe. probably through Vietnam - Thailand - India - Pakistan - Iran..... April/May 2014
But we havent fixed anything yet - we are still buying/modifying bikes - then we want do a testride for a week or two to test the equipment
Lets stay in touch and exchange experiences - especially when it comes to bikeprep and documents
How would you get past Myanmar? Back into China? or by boat?
I looked into this route before I decided to come to China and found that crossing into myanmar (burma) is impossible.
Also, I believe foreigners are not allowed to enter Tibet by road at least in the Yunnan or Sichuan direction so entering India via. the friendship highway may not be possible. Not quite as sure about that though.
JFYI, forget about riding into Burma, I couldn't even get far in by foot, bus, rail, or boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by gjackson4431
Quote:
Originally Posted by axa
Over the last few months things are changing in Burma you need to check out
http://www.rideasia.net
loads of threads about bike riding in burma and laos
here are a few links to read but use the search engine to find more
http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-f...ed-august.html
http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-f...50-l-back.html
http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-f...-trip-reports/
Hope this web site helps you to sort things out
That is really really interesting... Im going to have to look into a vietnam, laos, thailand, Myanmar, India, Pakistan route now...
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Originally Posted by gjackson4431
The guys down in Chiange Mai Thailand on RideAsia have done it all before but i think it is the first times guys have take bikes from Thailand /Laos/China so have some good reading
Thats crazy how fast things have changed in Burma. Lookj slike theres some hope out there. I'm interested to see the outcome of this trip and see how many of you guys can accomplish it without any trouble. Seems like a far fetched idea that requires lots of planning before execution.
Here is an update about our travel plans to europe
so we have the motorbikes now. shineray X5 and X2.
we bought some gear and did a few weekend test trips.
Our plan is to do a test longer trip once we have all the gear ready. probably sometime in April/May
Now its about deciding on the route.
The favorite would be going to tibet, nepal, india, pakistan, iran...
I was inquiring with some tour companies about the price for permits and guide for a 15 day trip - its somewhat around 3000 usd per head. which is a killer argument.
still trying to find a way...
the second route would lead us to xinjiang - pakistan, iran,.... we want to cross the taklamakan desert and take the karakorum highway to pakistan.
third route - go to laos, thailand, ship the bikes to nepal and continue from there to india ...etc.
going to Burma would be a great adventure - a few people did it recently but it still would involve a lot of money and time - so we skip that
So right now we check about visas and cost and then decide which route to take.
We plan to do this whole trip in about three months - doing 200 km a day - spending something around 500 rmb per day.
if we go to pakistan and Iran we will need a carnet which we can get from the german adac - they even issue it if the bike is registered abroad - which is perfect.
I read a post on HUBB that you need something like a A.T.A carnet to leave china.
Anybody heard of that? Is it easily possible to just leave china with a chinese registered bike and never come back?
I would like to get your guys opinions on the route and especially trough china, must see places, no-go places etc...
Do you have the HUBB link?Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden boy
It is not difficult, at all, to leave China if you re on a legal bike and you have all of the registration documents. Usually, the Chinese exit authorities just check your blue book, driving license and passport, if that. A carnet is not required.
However, it is a border crossing. Border control officers have tremendous power and discretion. It is best, therefore, to have every possible document with you (Green Book, original fapiao, insurance receipts, and so on), and just keep smiling. If they don't like the looks of you, for whatever reason, they can make your life miserable.
We may also be overlanding (upper route, through Russia) late summer, China -> Europe.
Hey Lia Jia Hou.
heres the link.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...et-nepal-74145
From what I hear it should not be a big deal to leave china with a legal bike.. thanks for your advice
Hey Golden Boy.
If you decide on the taklimakan/kashgi route let me know. We could do that bit together and part ways in kashgi. I'll be going through Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and across the Caspian from there. I plan to camp where ever I can Mondo Enduro style and spend as little as possible. If you want to see what I have on that route, I can send you my stuff.
And I don't think you're too far away from me. I got my RX3 so if you want another partner for the april/may test ride let me know. Im actually planning to drive to Zhangjiajie within the next few days if you have the free time.
I looked into that route through Tibet along the G219 road but i heard somewhere that they don't allow foreigners to drive into Tibet along that road... I forget where i saw that though. Take this as a 3rd hand rumor.
Hey gjackson,
Mondo enduro style... Love it.
Sure. Send me your stuff. I am very intersted in your plans. I am sure u also did a lot of reading to plan your route. Lets exchange.
We havent finally decided on the route yet. We have to find out how the situation in pakistan is right now.
So going to the stans is also still on the map for us.
Hello everybody,
I like this discussion, therefore I "up" it.
Just to present myself quickly, I am french, work in Beijing, just had my DL and waiting my Zongshen RX3 (next week).
Indeed, I am also checking the administrative feasibility of such a trip from Beijing to Europe. South road (I would leave in November, therefore north road can be very cold).
I am struggling about the motorbike passport "carnet de passage en douane".
Do we need it for sure ? (I mean, is there another way to go through borders than the CPD ?)
Is there a way to get it for a chinese bike ? I have read that ADAC in germany can do it, does anybody try already ?
What about the ATA carnet, is that confirmed ?
Does anybody have contact of people having done the trip ?
Thank you for your help.
Hello everybody,
I like this discussion, therefore I "up" it.
Just to present myself quickly, I am french, work in Beijing, just had my DL and waiting my Zongshen RX3 (next week).
Indeed, I am also checking the administrative feasibility of such a trip from Beijing to Europe. South road (I would leave in November, therefore no).
I am struggling about the motorbike passport "carnet de passage en douane".
Do we need it for sure ? (I mean, is there another way to go through borders than the CPD ?)
Is there a way to get it for a chinese bike ? I have read that ADAC in germany can do it, does anybody try already ?
What about the ATA carnet, is that confirmed ?
Does anybody have contact of people having done the trip ?
Thank you for your help.
We are finally off.
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Shanghai to France in APRIL 2015 - 2 frenchies - 2 roadsters :)
Keep us updated. It will be interesting! :popcorn: