Here is an update about our travel plans to europe


so we have the motorbikes now. shineray X5 and X2.
we bought some gear and did a few weekend test trips.
Our plan is to do a test longer trip once we have all the gear ready. probably sometime in April/May

Now its about deciding on the route.
The favorite would be going to tibet, nepal, india, pakistan, iran...
I was inquiring with some tour companies about the price for permits and guide for a 15 day trip - its somewhat around 3000 usd per head. which is a killer argument.
still trying to find a way...

the second route would lead us to xinjiang - pakistan, iran,.... we want to cross the taklamakan desert and take the karakorum highway to pakistan.

third route - go to laos, thailand, ship the bikes to nepal and continue from there to india ...etc.
going to Burma would be a great adventure - a few people did it recently but it still would involve a lot of money and time - so we skip that

So right now we check about visas and cost and then decide which route to take.

We plan to do this whole trip in about three months - doing 200 km a day - spending something around 500 rmb per day.
if we go to pakistan and Iran we will need a carnet which we can get from the german adac - they even issue it if the bike is registered abroad - which is perfect.

I read a post on HUBB that you need something like a A.T.A carnet to leave china.
Anybody heard of that? Is it easily possible to just leave china with a chinese registered bike and never come back?

I would like to get your guys opinions on the route and especially trough china, must see places, no-go places etc...