Thread: Shineray XY200GY-7 "Long March"
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#1 Shineray XY200GY-7 "Long March"04-20-2008, 02:57 AM
The Shineray "Long March" is the first of a new breed of motorcycle coming from China. While many Chinese motorcycle manufacturers are content to follow the path of producing copies of older Japanese motorcycles, Shineray is starting to beat their own path through the motorcycle manufacturer jungle.
Inspired by an aging Honda design the "Long March" was built as platform to showcase the future wants and goals of Shineray. The bike itself is loosely based on the early 80s Honda XL185. This bike was probably chosen as the company's first forte into establishing themselves as their own brand and not just as a copy cat because of the abundant XL185, XL150 and X125 clones being produced in China. This meant there was an abundant supply of parts and molds that could be utilised at a lower cost and therefor at a lower risk for the manufacturer.
Shineray took the old XL185 and threw some new life into it. They changed the swing arm design and altered the placement of the progressive dual shock placement. A design that many people would consider obsolete on a new dual sport bike but in reality works incredibly well. The main idea around this bike was reliability, utility and range. The dual shocks add to that reliability as does the redundant CDI system. This bike was actually built with a complete secondary CDI systems just in case you're in the middle a of a jungle or desert and have a CDI failure. This is a bike that was designed not to leave it's rider stranded.
To compliment the reliability Shineray added a massive 21L (5.6 us gallon) gas tank to give the bike an impressive range of about 700-800km per tank. One problem with the tank though is the lack of a reserve and therefor the rider has to always worry about how much fuel is left in the tank. Also the placement of the tank spigot could have been better located to make sure the rider is getting the most range he or she could expect out of the large tank.
Riding impressions of the bike are quite good. The seat is wide and comfortable and the OHC 16hp Honda inspired 200cc engine pulls the bike along well. Shineray did a good job of building a vibration free machine up to about 8500rpms. The bike is happiest cruising at about 6000-7000rpms and delivers it's best economy in this range. Above 7500rpms the rider will notice a big hit in fuel economy depending on the load the bike is carrying. Riding 2 up through the mountains of western Guangxi province with enough gear for a weekend of riding I managed a staggering 700+ km per tank.
The fit and finish of the bike is acceptable and is improving with every new batch coming out of the factory. Shineray is mindful of it's customers suggestions on how to improve their product and is taking some of their suggestions into consideration. A new throttle assembly and mirror design will be released soon. According Shineray this is not because of the quality of the products but because the current parts are more likely to break if the bike is dropped. This is good news for China motorcycle riders. It is nice to know that at some factories in China are considering reliability and durability of the parts used to build their bikes. Also the camo colour previously used on the bike has been discontinued due to the lack of adhesion of the paint to the plastic and future bikes will only be produced with colour in plastics.
The only real design oversight I can see with this bike is Shineray's choice of rear sprocket that is larger than one of my grandmother's dinner plates. If the bike was really meant for long distance touring or exploration the large 56 tooth sprocket on the back of the bike is a big mistake. Not only does it hinder the range of the bike it also seriously effects the comfortable cruising speed of the bike and basically limits the rider to 80kmph. Any speed above this the 200cc 56 tooth sprocket combo seems as if it is dying to stay alive, screaming for every kph it can while consuming copious amounts of fuel.
Shineray has done of a good job with this bike. This is one company that isn't content to be the producer of a bikes copied from Japanese manufacturers and that is willing to do some of it's own R&D to develop some new bikes that will help the company build it's own brand image and following. Shineray has decided to stray away from the mass production of street bikes and concentrate more on building dirt and enduro motorcycles. The company told me that they would like to model themselves as Chinese KTM, building strong off road motorcycles to compete in the worldwide off road arena.
The "Long March" has generated a lot of interest on some foreign motorcycle forums and if it is any sign of what's to come from Shineray in the future it looks like Shineray is one Chinese brand to watch.
Shineray has also recently developed a liquid cooled 250cc engine with 6 speed transmission that will be making it into Shineray's new X2 that will be released to market in China this coming June. There are also rumors of Shineray producing a 400cc enduro bike by the end of 2008.
Length/ Width/ Height： 2150/850/1350 mm
Seat Height： 870mm
Turning Circle： 1390mm
Dry Weight： 122kg
Wet Weight： 150kg
Front Tire： 90/90-21
Rear Tire： 120/90-18
Engine Model： 163FMJ
Horsepower： 16hp (12.0kw)/9500
Top speed： 90km/h
Fuel Tank 21L (5.6 us gallons)
Last edited by Supersignet; 05-04-2008 at 01:28 AM.
04-22-2008, 01:47 AM
I want one! Cool bike!
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04-22-2008, 03:35 AM
My wife wants one too. She wants to ride beside me when we leave Guangxi and go to Beijing this summer.
It's a great bike.
04-23-2008, 03:39 AM
We're still waiting for this bike in NA! Couldn't you just send yours? We won't tell :innocent:
Actually, has Shineray released their dual-sport 250 yet? Very solid-looking bike, and a step above the usual GY-fare, at least from the looks department :drool:
05-02-2008, 09:49 PM
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I am new to the list and live on the Arizona/Mexcio border. This bike looks perfect for the backroads of Mexico but the height is a problem.
The conversion to inches is 34.27. With the wide seat touching the ground could be difficult. Could my wife, 5'4", ride this machine? Wish we could sit on one here.
05-02-2008, 10:39 PM
At 5'4" there is probably no way your wife could ride the bike. I'm 6'0 and can't stand flat footed.
07-08-2008, 08:35 AM
It has been a while since I posted anything about my bike and sadly there is a reason for this. My bike had a quality control issue that has made the bike unridable. The bike broke while I was riding it and I'm lucky that I didn't get hurt badly. There was a problem with the casting of the tripple clamp and they cracked as I was riding the bike.
I have taken a while to post this information because I have been in contact with Shineray about what they plan on doing and how they want to go about repiring the bike. After my bike had the problem the factory stopped selling the GY-7 and is putting the tripple clamp through extensive testing and possible redesin. According to the factory the tripple clamp was a subcontracted part that pssibly was not built to standards. I do not know if the problem has been fixed. All I do know is that CrazyCarl went to one Shineray dealer in Chengdu that said they were temporarly not selling the bike. I have been debating whether or not to post photos of the broken bike and as of yet I have not decided.
Last edited by Supersignet; 07-08-2008 at 08:54 AM.
07-08-2008, 04:42 PM
You are very lucky that you didn't get killed when the triple tree snapped. I reckon that the factory not only should refund you the money you paid for that bike but also send you an improved model free of charge to save their ass.
07-09-2008, 01:34 AM
I agree Franki, but the factory sees any proactive damage control as an unacceptable cost and is in no way willing to prove to me that their product has been fixed.
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