The rummored Shineray X5 is coming

[Robeta]

Just catching up here, you mean to say a 400cc dual sport with all the gear , well nearly all is only 6000 RMB, too hard to believe, maybe its quoted in dollars or euros, even pounds ,lol if that cheap and certified i will open my own shop, i think someone has made a mistake.

look on the web site i posted earlier and look at the stats, i know i says 3000, but i am sure they meant 30,000, however if they say 6000, thats too cheap a something must be not right, maybe the carb version and cant sell it

[ChinaV]

something must be not right

Yeah, it's called Taobao or Shineray... take your pick.



Cheers!
ChinaV

[bikerdoc]

well I don't believe the price at all. the seller also did say he wasn't sure on the price and it was just his feeling on what the price might be. at the end of this is China, don't take anything literally...

[MJH]

The Shineray X-5 engine is a copy of the Honda XR400, is it the same engine offered in Japan in 2005?
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This is Honda statement on that engine….

Powerful, responsive engine
The air-cooled, single-cylinder, 400 cc, OHC, 4-stroke engine employs a radial four-valve combustion chamber (RFVC) structure for excellent combustion efficiency. The 34 mm carburetor diameter and transmission gear ratios, both special-specification, improve intake and exhaust efficiency for superb acceleration at low- to mid-range speeds and powerful engine responsiveness. In addition, the reduced moment of inertia of the ACG rotor improves throttle response. These features add up to an engine not only ideal for city riding, but also powerful enough to endure tough Super Motard races.


Here are the specifications on the engine. (there are power rating discrepancies on the actual rated power from 22kw to 24kw?
It should have about a 30hp engine and if they got it right its not a bad engine, there were some issues with cam mounting screws in early models.


Honda replaced that engine with the water cooled 450 that is being copied by Asia Wing.
It is not a modern engine....but I do not think it is considered by most as a bad design.

[MJH]

It was not bad choice for Shineray to bring to the market, It is not likely that technology is under a patent, the design is real close to the modern XR300, but not identical that could get them in trouble for violating the Honda design style, those types of patents on a design are renewable and in that can theoretically never expire.


Importing that to the USA is entirely not a bad idea, they should configure it to the carbureted speciation of the 2004 Honda. Then get it a legitimate EPA certificate and see if they can bring it to the USA through Qlink? That is very possible, but they really need to consider the pricing and also methods used in marketing to dealers.


Qlink could bring that bike into its product line with the X-2, they seem to intend to bring to the USA. They really have to follow federal regulations to the letter these days though, others have really screwed it up with falsifying EPA applications and also not adhering the FMVSS regulations, to include the NHSTA regulation.

[MJH]

The price would have to be under $4,000.00 USD for that bike, they would have to be able to offer it for probably about $3,650.00 and then offer sales with another $250.00 off if it did not sell fast.


The X-2 could be $3,150.00 and also offer sales if it did not move.


Qlink needs to lower its prices and start moving inventory again.


They need to bring down the price on the XP/XF to $2,250.00 and then run special if needed on those.


They have to have more offerings and stepped ranges and prices.


They should advertise for each dealer in local papers and cable TV then they will move inventory very fast, many people are not aware of the lowered cost options.


Qlink may want to differentiate the brand names and marketing of their imports, they might want to consider offering each under its Chinese brand name. The Shineray should be offered as XinYuan and that could be abbreviated to XY Motors or XYM as an insignia/trademark. Aligning on that brings about synergy and will elievate all the levels of ego involved and related false pride and falsities in names.


People will eventually except the Chinese motorcycles and better to attain that respect in complete legitimacy. Avoid the hokey names and gimmicks, just identify them and the manufacturer, offer them with full documentation and legitimate support and good prices.

[motoviva]

MHJ you cant be more rigth on this.Start with the Qlink company wich i consider ones of the few that are trying very hard to stablishe a decent Chinese motorcycle line in the USA.They told me that the price of the Shineray 250 mx will be 3,600. USD.So i figure that the d/p 250 could be around 3,999. or a little bit more. If that is the case they have to be carefull to not to rise close to the new Honda 250 d/p. If they bring the 400 with decent suspesion & quality could sell a lot because this bike (Honda XR 400) have good reputation in USA.Regard to the funny names i am with you too! Its riduclous the kind of name that some importers put on the models and how bad this hurt there products (What they are Thinking),the companies who manufacture this must do something to stop this or the will never get a serious recognition on the market.That is the problem with private labels unless the contract stop doing that.But they just one to sell today even dont sell tomorow!In the history of KTM they strugle to rise the company but never change the name and in the beggining they sell thru Penton in USA but after a couple years they stop them.They knew it will hurt the sales & reputation in the future.

[MJH]

The X-5

Honda XR300

Derbi Terra



That style bike is not uncommon, the X-5 is actually the best type I have seen that follows that stylization.