Steve's CFMoto 650 NK（春风 650 NK）

**Steve_Halt** · 09-04-2012, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by fletch7276

Guys, I joined the CFMoto club earlier tonight, picked up a 650NK in Beijing. Had a great first ride tonight, in the crystal clear air we had in Beijing today. looking forward to posting more feedback on the bike, as well as some fun mods.

Congrats!
Wanna see the mods!!! BTW, what color did you get?

**Steve_Halt** · 09-04-2012, 05:41 AM

Shanghaifingers, thanks for the info! I'll be considering that!

**fletch7276** · 09-05-2012, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Steve_Halt

Congrats!
Wanna see the mods!!! BTW, what color did you get?

i bought black with the red frame and swingarm, which sounds like they are hard to find right now. I pushed the dealer a bit, and they ended up finding one same day, and transferred it from another shop. i was on the road within an hour.

**Steve_Halt** · 09-05-2012, 02:56 PM

An hour! Now that's service! Yeah black/red NKs seem to be the most popular ones.

**quaterchicken** · 09-08-2012, 09:16 AM

Another review from Australia

http://observationsofaperpetualmotor...-650nk-review/

**ZMC888** · 09-08-2012, 02:02 PM

It seems to me, that maybe, just maybe, these CFMoto boys might be the ones that win the 'battle of the Chinese manufacturers', that's because they actually seem to give a shit about their product and customers.

**bikerdoc** · 09-08-2012, 10:02 PM

^to an extent I'd agree, though as an outside individual it is hard trying to provide feedback where it can be directed to the right person within CFMoto, even more so as a foreigner inside PRC.

That might differ though from a perspective when the customer is a foreign big volume buyer. Still that kind of buyer would be dealing with the sales and marketing side of the business, and my experience with that at CFMoto is that some of those people are not motorcyclists and consequently they have little interest past that of sales.

Case in point when I did my first CFMoto factory visit back in 2010, the marketing people I dealt with were fresh uni graduates, who had not ridden less owned a motorised two wheeler of any kind, and displayed a complete lack of knowledge of anything technical, though that also could be because I could only discuss motorcycling especially technical and my feedback about the two CFMoto's I'd had using an English vocabulary. It became evident though that the two people I was dealing with, while friendly enough had little interest in motorcycles in general, past sales. So my feedback was falling on "deaf ears" and when I was asking technical questions the sales and marketing territorial manager I was dealing with, had to walk to a part of the factory and ask someone working near the assembly line (can't remember that persons name or role).

That might differ if one could speak fluent Mandarin, which I admit I can't. Certainly not to a level where I can express myself with motorcycle terminology.

Still I do think that CFMoto would be more likely to listen, and take on-board feedback more so than most if not all other Chinese motorcycle manufacturers especially if the feedback could get to the right people.

Regardless of that, they are more focused on the export market and are very focused on being the leader with about quarter of the business model in R&D.

YMMV

**Zorge** · 09-09-2012, 05:06 AM

I could forgive them all, if they would deliver a good service manual with each bike.

**Steve_Halt** · 09-09-2012, 09:55 AM

Zorge, I got a decent service manual. It's in Chinese, OK, but that can easily be translated. And it is quite substantial.

bikerdoc, that happened most likely because the people who do sales & marketing are somebody's nieces, nephews and one-night-stands that lasted for a little longer than expected. 99.9% of Chinese companies have that kind of "specialists" in marketing 'cause they believe that marketing department is the least important one in a company structure. I teach Business English. I've had extensive experience visiting both manufacturing and service companies. It's all been the same. And, trust me, meanwhile they look like Uni graduates, that doesn't mean that they actually are those.

ZMC888, I believe any other company could have long done it, had they known both dictionary definitions for "quality" and "cost-cutting".

**Steve_Halt** · 09-10-2012, 03:45 PM

Today got the license plates. It wa squite an experience because I followed the agent everywhere eager to learn the magic. So the process foes as follows:

1. Ride your bike to the place where they take a pic of it. The bike has to be in stock condition. They even asked me to remove the strap I used to put on my bags on the bike. This photo goes into the vehicle's ID card.

2. 2nd stop is where they check your bike's frame & engine numbers. Obviously, they should match your bike's documents.

3. Then go to the office, where you fill in the license plate application form. Actually the form's already filled in and all you have to do is sign it. Your passport, visa and residence permit also get checked here. In my particular case the officer had trouble telling my passport number from my name. The fact that one is numbers and one is letters didn't prevent him from calling over a girl with rudimental knowledge of English, who explained it to him. They also got the original of my residence permit here and never gave it back. So after the procedure I had to go to my district's police office, explain the situation to them and ask them for a new copy of the residence permit.

4. Go to the main building, where there is a machine that lets you choose your plate number out of 20 available bike plate numbers.

5. Go to the next window, where you hand in the printout with your new bike plate number and sign in another application form.

6. Go to the plating bureau building, where you get your plates and have them put on your bike.

7. Wait for 4 hours (say, go home and have lunch) and get the documents accompanying the plates. Done.

This procedure is for Nanjing city only and may be different for other cities. Even though it seems lengthy it took me about an hour to get my bike plated and then I just had to pick my documents up.
So, happy Teachers' Day to me, I'm legal now.