Build your own kit bike

**MJH** · 03-21-2016, 12:27 PM

If you can supply a better version for less, then it’s a matter of finding a regional distributor that is willing to purchase them, the distribution in many regions is locked and if any of them fail as in collapse then, well anyone starting up subsequently after that, that be the old adage, repeating the same behavior and expecting different results.
It’s not a bubble that being the manufacturing side does not operate within one, they however are overly inflated and shrinking. They are connected to the markets and the markets are managed by others and they have set in place processes/networks/systems, they are controlling it as they should. That being there is no new buyers know that stage is over.
Basically your call is to outsource the labor to each hobbyist that has an interest in assembling their own motorcycle?
Also Zorge’s observation is astute, the Levis bikes were from primarily the same era as the Black Douglas, if any legacy is to be connected they should be based initially on that type of designs.

**MJH** · 03-21-2016, 12:36 PM

The next model would or could be a hardtail for Levis, labeling a very common bike with a name from the past is nothing if not rooted in something seemingly legit.

**ancilenet** · 03-21-2016, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by MJH

The next model would or could be a hardtail for Levis, labeling a very common bike with a name from the past is nothing if not rooted in something seemingly legit.

Just looking at the pics, damn that's a nice piece.

**MJH** · 03-22-2016, 02:49 PM

My point is that resurrecting a brand name needs to be taken seriously or should be, obviously the name could be put on anything there is nothing preventing that from happening, however how will the market respond?

The Black Douglass are custom builds, each made one at a time to order. The price reflects that. They seem to have sold a few.

Could that type of bike be made on an assembly line and sold for a fourth of the price, for sure, if it was made with a 125cc you could only wonder how many learners would embrace the model?

You need distribution partners they have the network and support to and in the market. That is the only way to test and possibly optimize sales, which a matter of maximum market access for consumers.
I do not believe that the CCW models offered through Sinnis are flying off showroom floors. Simply because the prices are higher.

Supply and demand is a simple model, raise the price and sales fall, lower the price and sales increase.

Units	Retail Price	Profit	Revenue
100	$2,700.00	$1,700.00	$170,000.00
125	$2,600.00	$1,600.00	$200,000.00
150	$2,500.00	$1,500.00	$225,000.00
175	$2,400.00	$1,400.00	$245,000.00
200	$2,300.00	$1,300.00	$260,000.00
225	$2,200.00	$1,200.00	$270,000.00
250	$2,100.00	$1,100.00	$275,000.00
275	$2,000.00	$1,000.00	$275,000.00

An admittedly overtly simplistic modeling, there are always more variables, to attain a target sales advertising has to be done every dollar spent correctly adds to unit sales.

**Zorge** · 03-22-2016, 06:18 PM

Aaaaa-Janus-chooo!

Sorry, it looks that I catch a cold...

**MJH** · 03-22-2016, 06:43 PM

You know what is funny, that my computer flags the Janus site as malicious, when checking the details it states malicious marketing/merchandising. WOW! Somebody must have made that entry into a subjective database for the site. It could not have been done any other way, I wonder if the people at Janus even know that they are flagged?

http://www.janusmotorcycles.com/

Here are instructions on how to make those
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoRH0xemuEY

Thats a joke, the man in the video is or claims to be the designer of these motorcycles. I personally cannot get past the prices, base of $8,200.00 and $700.00 shipping.