CCW

[Gardo]

It is matter of taste…but I do not want the hard tail or suicide shifter or handle bars that extend above my head, its all uncomfortable.

That little bike could easily be customized to this version and I really would want to do that.

The seat is upright the shift straight up and down, I prefer a mono-shock and swing arm. If I had to avoid a collision I rather have the bike that could jump a curb and take turn with out it being outside a natural range of movement.

MJH I find that damn sexy, i love bikes but more so what you can do with them and how they can be transformed

[MJH]

Gardo, I went the distance with a rep from Galaxy (Yinhe) last year trying to get some of the bikes imported. Culcune and others know that, Galaxy advertised them as EPA/DOT and also made an offer to ship one as a samples. I was totally excited and then later found out they are not EPA conforming….to say the least I was really pissed off.

I also went a distance bringing attention to the Qingqi Tracker, the bike the CCW ACE appears to be based on, I am not taking credit for its existence. I have the same taste and vision as others, it does not surprise me when other do exactly what I would do. However the timing is ironic.

I would say the master of design is Oberdan Bezzi if I worked for CCW I would be sending him gifts.

[Gardo]

LoL MJH

[MJH]

Its not a matter of right or wrong…it’s a matter of it being available today for production and in form that could be easily customized and at a really good price. I agree with you on the nimble and versatility of the dual sport…I go off-road often and feel a big advantage being able to do so, but when I think about modifying the dual sport it them becomes a motard “Motocross-Standard”.



The Motard is just that they use them to race on a combination track, some dirt and then some pavement.

This little bike is a Tracker and shares some of the versatility, it would be nimble and corner fast. But the beauty of it is it can also feed the need to customize that some have….Heiwa shows that it’s rendition.

I could customize my XP200...but my interest would require some fabrication and the results would not be the same….and I priced it and its not worth it to me.

I am not foolish I know that if I had an SUV250 customized to look like a Heiwa I could auction it and get a good buck for it. If it was a limited edition run numerated and limited with the CCW name it could become a collectible.

To me that is about getting access to a flexible manufacturing line in china…but also protecting that and not seeing the exact same model being offered by others. The line would only produce small runs and then switch to the next model.

The thing is that the factory line has to keep running and in that they keep selling what they make. Eventually the market gets flooded and also interest wanes…so it's about designing and producing and then repeating that through one line and that’s called adaptable or flexible.

[MJH]

I respect this journalist ….Basem Wasef

The MCM site generates 800 unique hits daily and is valued at or around $1,700.00...the quality of the content drives traffic and in that determines the value.

I am just saying...

[culcune]

Interesting article, MJH. It seems funny that just a few years ago, the Chinese bikes would have been totally ignored (except by people on here and earlier, chinariders), but there they were on the list!

[culcune]

Gardo, I went the distance with a rep from Galaxy (Yinhe) last year trying to get some of the bikes imported. Culcune and others know that, Galaxy advertised them as EPA/DOT and also made an offer to ship one as a samples. I was totally excited and then later found out they are not EPA conforming….

I don't think that Pitster had the XTR 150 and XTR 230 that they have now when you were setting up a list. I am near 100% confident they are both from Galaxy, which means they have EPA certification--there should be some connection with being certified for both the XTR 230 and SUV 250?!

[MJH]

I don't think that Pitster had the XTR 150 and XTR 230 that they have now when you were setting up a list. I am near 100% confident they are both from Galaxy, which means they have EPA certification--there should be some connection with being certified for both the XTR 230 and SUV 250?!

Motorcycle engines are not tested and listed as compliant...think about it motorcycle models are.
The XTR230 has to be EPA conforming to the off road standards set by the EPA. The SUV250 having the same engine means nothing, it's not the engine its the configuration of it, the timing the induction and exhaust.

The EPA has a list of models....models are either on the list or not. If they imported the SUV250 as a XTR230 it would be illegal.

The standard for off highway are less strict as for those used on highway.

[MJH]

Who ever approaches Galaxy has to be willing to fund them to develop the EFI for the model. Getting EPA is nothing more them attaining a certain level of exhaust gases. Spending to get the certificate or worse attempting to get around it is limited. It would be taking the wrong approach.

The small bikes that have EFI are better suited for the new riders, simply on and off no more steps to start the bike it becomes just get on and start it. If they were real smart they would time or calculate the time frame for the little engine to attain it’s operating pressure. The bikes need to be smarter and technology offers that, a sensor that lets a rider know it's ready to be ridden or ready for service. They also could venture into GPS onboard….

The advantage of a lowered production cost should be capitalized on and the opportunity to add features that the others leave off because of the higher costs to those manufacturing in higher cost environments.

I’d say the 223cc is good for electronics and so is the 250 water cooled engine, the goal would be smooth and consistent power as well as durability. That may require looping out and then looping back as in developing it outside and then bring it back in for production. How can they develop bigger and better if they cannot prefect the designs they currently offer?

I would say the best scenario would be to buy into a company as a partner formally and with some capital. I could be wrong but I think the small engines with electronics and six speed transmission have not been developed fully.

I think it’s funny when people say who are these bikes good for…the only real valid factor is how much do you weigh? Could say if the demographics of the area have a high percentage of obesity the smaller displacement bikes will not sell well.

[MJH]

What if the bike came with a helmet and in the helmet was a display that showed you what was behind you? It also tied in to your cellular network and offered turn by turn and also recorded your path and then downloaded it to a file server? What if your bike came with a personal web interface? That allowed you to customize it and share it with others in a network? Such technology adds costs but it also adds value equipping the bikes with integrated smart technology.