CCW

[MJH]

There are too many entities involved, government is not efficient. The EPA, DOT and NHSTA as well as others, its all ridiculously disconnected. However private companies have no trouble linking…Edmunds links to Carfax that is linked into every BMV in the country. However a VIN of a vehicle that has yet to be titled is and would not be in that data.

All the before a sale information is held were? The EPA only has model and manufacturer data as well as the DOT….but the NHSTA they are concerned with VIN codes so they can find any models that represent a threat to consumer safety.

I would say the EPA and DOT are the or should be the gate keepers and should maintain the model data sheets, that being the completed model and its associated data gets entered there with them and then allow it to enter a data table for the NHSTA that works with manufactures as the models are brought to the market they then become data lines. Then those lines would used by the BMV of each state to assign titles and registration. The BMV would find your line (a specific VIN) and then enter your name next to it.

However each model before being allowed to enter the list, that list would be of all vehicles in the market would have to meet criteria. Not just EPA and DOT regulations it would also have to come with digital schematics and linked parts list. The parts lists would all have to follow the same type system and reveals who made the part and the source of the part.

Then authorized service centers could then access parts and by make and model as well as record replacement on an actual VIN.

Nice thing about such type of system would be that only those that actually have the rights to a make or model would be able to get it in the system, so part of the gate keeping would be is it what it claims to be and or does it violate the rights of another manufacturer.

Such a BIG DADDY database could be open to the public for review less owners addresses…it could be used to seek out such things as fuel efficiency or weight to power ratios or just maybe longevity in the market. When a VIN or related model reaches its end of life it brings about a life span…. How many still on the road since inception?

[Gardo]

the theoretical aspect is interesting and something a DBA could potentially put together easily with tracking data for particulates, with service information linked from a garage. i see how that would be keen and they already do something like this for cars so the tech is there its just modding it to fit the MC culture

[MJH]

There are now only two EPA classes of on highway motorcycles above 279 and below 280cc as that is the separation of the classes. The standards are less strict for class I which includes all the 50cc to 250cc products the Chinese offer. Off highway as in dirt bikes and ATV are a separate category and have even less strict requirements then the Class I on highway motorcycles.


Can you imagine if the Chinese spent the time and energy to develop a 400cc or larger motorcycle based on a standard that they new would be raised….even some of the smaller engines do not meet china’s new emissions standards. I am not positive but the new Chinese standards are said to be modeled on CARB standards. Then also that is the standard the USA EPA is moving towards that being the Californian standards. So the why not a bike with a bigger engine could be more about why bother.

The new class I will be EFI for sure and also electrics. The best investment would be in developing EFI for class I and also developing electrics and batteries.

If you could take all these engines and then develop a range of them with EFI your going to have a market in the future. If not you will not and whoever does it first rules the market as the EPA makes changes only when the technology is readily available and it already is available.


In 2000 there was no Chinese manufactured motorcycles in the class I range….it's 2011 and now there is and they are not displacing preexisting sales with better made models they are actually lowing the standard. That will not get unnoticed and will likely bring about changes in regulations. Since China is forcing change on it’s market as well then it all will align eventually.

Again I am not sure but the new Chinese standard could be the same as the standard used in California? Whoever can develop a Class I line in China will dominate and also benefit by also being able to market those in the USA. Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die….some of Chinese manufactures should die off. The new technology may kill them off? But they may persevere selling the lesser product to the less developed nations…but that’s not going to last long since many of those will inevitable adopt a global standard.

So then it about standards and then about designing and assembling around those and then distributing them to markets. If each market had an open list as the models become available from manufactures then they become commodities and then a matter of supply and demand. But that’s all a matter of logistic and about service and support. In that is a call for a smart system to keep track of it all.

[Gardo]

ok dude you need to lay off the wacky weed o.O LoL,

now back to the topic at hand. Scotty was at PITMotorsLTD today and delivered the Misfit and the Ace. I will be going down maybe this weekend to check them out. If i get down there i will let you guys know about the feel and handling

[Gardo]

the Hooligan from CCW at PITMotorsLTD
Brett From PITMotorsLTD taking it easy on the bike

[moilami]

the Hooligan from CCW at PITMotorsLTD
Brett From PITMotorsLTD taking it easy on the bike

in b4 "omg no helmet".

Good picture.

(And kids, don't try that. Hurts a lot on head if you fail at some point.)

[barnone]

Ain't he the stud? That bike looks like my Qlink XF200. Is it a 250 like ChinaV has/had?

[ChinaV]

I thought the Hooligan was a 250cc? Doesn't look like the bike in the photo is the QingQi 250.

Cheers!
ChinaV

[barnone]

ChinaV,
According to MJH the Hooligan is a 250cc Qingqi.
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...2482-CCW/page4


Qingqi Group Ningbo Rhon Motorcycle Co., Ltd.
Looks like all the CCW bikes are http://www.motor-rhon.com/ built?

[Gardo]

ChinaV,
According to MJH the Hooligan is a 250cc Qingqi.
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...2482-CCW/page4


Qingqi Group Ningbo Rhon Motorcycle Co., Ltd.
Looks like all the CCW bikes are http://www.motor-rhon.com/ built?

CCW is 1/3 owner of Rhon thats who's facility they use and it is a 250cc I also have Pics of the Ace and the Misfit that will be making there way here.
I just may take a vacation day and head down on friday to check out the other bikes and maybe take them for a spin