ChinaV's new MCM QingQi 250!!!

[JTC]

NEW Response from Trail Tech on the Vapor Computer Kit - I hope you all find their reponse useful if you are considering buying one of these units for your Qlink or related Sumo.

The problem that we are going to run into is that we do not offer a kit that will have all of the correct sensors in it. The problem is that all of our inverted fork kits are for water cooled bikes. What you are going to need to do is get the 75-700 kit and then also get the correct temp sensor. The part number for the temp sensor is 7500-3012. If you are also interested in the indicator light dashboard the part number for that is 022-PDA.



Andrew :)

[slabo]

ChinaV,

1. Did you buy your's with Enduro or Motard wheels? Do you know how much the Enduro version costs?
2. How big is that tank?
3. How heavy is the bike? (Dry weight)
4. Not really important for me, but does it have a fuel level indicator?
5. Is it lower than my Shineray(seat height)? Before I bought my Shineray, I sat on a QM200 Motard at a dealer's shop and the I felt cramped. Bars were too low maybe. My inexperience turned me away from the bike.. Just wondering if the 250 will feel the same.

Time for an upgrade! Stopped by the Qingqi dealer in Kunming the other day, they don't have anything bigger than 150s on display! Again, I have to rely on MCM for info!

[ChinaV]

ChinaV,

1. Did you buy your's with Enduro or Motard wheels? Do you know how much the Enduro version costs?
2. How big is that tank?
3. How heavy is the bike? (Dry weight)
4. Not really important for me, but does it have a fuel level indicator?
5. Is it lower than my Shineray(seat height)? Before I bought my Shineray, I sat on a QM200 Motard at a dealer's shop and the I felt cramped. Bars were too low maybe. My inexperience turned me away from the bike.. Just wondering if the 250 will feel the same.

Time for an upgrade! Stopped by the Qingqi dealer in Kunming the other day, they don't have anything bigger than 150s on display! Again, I have to rely on MCM for info!

1.) Only comes with motard wheels, bought the 21"/18" setup from Taobao. Same as the QM200. I'm working on a 17"/19" setup for touring.
2.) Tank is 10 liters (250 km) range. This is the main reason I wanted "The Rock" QM250GY-2D, much bigger 20 liter tank.
3.) 130 Kg
4.) No fuel gauge, but tripmeter and reserve lever on petcock.
5.) Yes, lower than the GY7. Only the GY7, X2, JH600 and Galaxy TGR seem to be made for larger people.

You're not going to get any help with buying a QM250 from QingQi shops or the factory. People in the company know little about the models they produce and sell. You will also need some guanxi at the registry to get it road legal, it's not really approved for sale in all places.

One other option you might want to think about is throwing one of these into your GY7, it's a counterbalanced 230cc version of the motor in all the Galaxy bikes. Power and vibration issues solved and you still have a full sized bike with the huge tank, luggage racks and offroad ability. Add some Kings Tire KT-966's and I think you're GY7 would be a completely different bike.

Cheers!
ChinaV

[euphonius]

Amazing idea, V. Is it really so easy to swap out one engine for another?

If so, why not this one?

[Supersignet]

Remember Slabo if everything was easy and things made sense we wouldn't be in China anymore.

[slabo]

Thanks for all the replies. I had my hopes up, but the guanxi requirement quickly turned me off. I really have no patience for such things, but mabye I should start learning if I intentend to stay in China for a long time.

I like the idea of replacing the engine. True, vibration and power are the main issues. I'd be spending ~3000 rmb and get a new bike.
But this needs a closer study. I replace the engine, I will then notice the suspension after that. Also, bike weighs 144kg dry now! Thats because all the frame, rack, handle bar... everything is steel. Heavy, strong and cheap! I'm sure that Loncin engine is even heavier. How will the bike handle? I'm scared if I start down that road, this whole project will turn into a money pit.
Too early to make a descion, but I will think more about the engine swap. I really I can't see upgrading to another bike except if its a well built 250 Enduro.

[slabo]

Found this little gem on Taobao today. Someone frankenstiened a Shineray GY7! Same engine ChinaV was talking about, with an air cooler.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5821348378

With the new regulations out, carb bikes not legal anymore, seems I have a bike I should hold on to because getting something new is even more trouble. Changing my engine seems like a good choice now.