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  1. #211 Re: CCW 
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    I think people are attracted to the price initially. Best of luck to the guy :)
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    One of the most popular images I have posted is that of the Heiwa based on the CMX250.

    A multiplicity of manufactures offer a version of the HONDA and kits are available to turn the CMX either a used one or a Chinese version of one into a bobber.





    1) replicate the kits…consider Vietnam for manufacturing the parts.
    2) order some stock versions of the Chinese CMX convert them offer them and the kits.


    Not as cool as the Heiwa that has a custom frame but it offers an option on a very mundane bike and livens it up. Plus there are a bunch of the CMX250 clones and originals floating around. You could certainly beat blue collar bobber prices.

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    Seriously if you’re in china and contracting then why not sell some molded plastic kits made to customize a early model ninja250?


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    I am pretty sure that from 1988-2007 the biggest seller was the EX250 outselling every other single model motorcycle in the USA.

    Its not only the Ninja that some would like to de-fair there are also a bunch of others like the Lifan LF200-B that has a common frame used on many Chinese bikes,


    like the Jinlun 250, offered online for sale.


    Jinlun has the CMX250 engine in it, that also leads into selling those engines as replacement engines. They all seem to share common mounting points on many bikes that frame is taking everything from a water cooled NX-250 engines to a the CMX250 twin to a variety of singles cylinder engines the LF200B is a 200cc engine. They may all share mounting points on the common frame.

    Gear clusters, headlights mounting instructions…plastic body kits, all the parts to convert these bikes into something more palatable and get rid of these outrageous plastic shrouds. Often the models share parts documenting them and supplying them for specific models drives the sales of them.

    Here are three models a Tank Khaos, sold in the USA and is still being sold online, A Lifan LF200III and a un-faired version with the CMX250 twin.


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    MJH,
    What do all these pictures of bikes that you keep posting have to do with CCW? Just wondering.....
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    Here is the thing if the parts are available online and entering a VIN number pulled up a schematic with a list of all related parts and also offered a custom command button…then opened as in clicking on that would offer another list or kit to alter the bikes…I think that people that have these or see them for sale used online would get active?

    The Lifan GS200 is being offered online and for about $1,600.00...the last bike shares the same frame as it, taking off the fairing requires a headlight and gauge cluster, a cover for were the tank met the fairing, handle bars and mirrors…packages could be different and even could offer engine up grades or engine replacements, different rims and tires, exhausts, fenders…

    Once its all documented then models could be ordered from the OEM less all the added parts that make them custom. The parts added here at a dealer or an assembly center. If the parts are sourced from outside china then it reduces the chances of seeing the exact same models coming through as imports from another supplier.

    Since none of the OEM have rock solid support in the USA logically you could offer that for them, that being part support all that is required is they adhere to a set method of documentation. None of these manufactures will ever be selling there entire line in the USA or other developed markets, they typically only offer a small line and seems that consistent documentation and parts support is nothing more then due diligence. Schematics, parts books and servicing manuals, does not seem that difficult.

    The documentation services become more and more relevant if and when the technology advances, its needed at the onset as in place within degrees as when the brand names become respected. That allows a mechanic easy access to what is needed to troubleshoot or make repairs.

    An academics or a trade school could be aligned on that and offer documentation services and product support training. That and part support all developed within such an environment as a trade school. That could also be aligned with a design research and development center as well as international business process management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnone View Post
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    What do all these pictures of bikes that you keep posting have to do with CCW? Just wondering.....
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    It’s complicated, however there is a giant mall located in southeast Cleveland and it’s the home of PSI and the mall was recently purchased by a developer. It's all about expanding CCW and a brainstorm of how to do it.

    The region is in flux with a change in government and budget reviews and all sorts of alternate funding models and grants flying around, the area is hot for development and education and job creation are criteria for getting access to start-up funds.

    Aligning with the PSI school and also local education institutes and think tanks could happen, the casino that is opening has to allocate 50M to the state and the state has to use those funds for education and job creation.

    The new county executive is offering a budget cut and in that a redirect of 10% of sales taxes into economic development…that’s $1M each year to spend on ventures that develop economic drivers.

    RTA the local transit authority is evaluating extending an existing commuter rail line to the mall site. That criteria for funding is that of demonstrating a potential for economic development.

    It's all a blueprint for global logistics, importing and selling, distribution, warehousing…can be linked to the educational institution that already exists in the area, a campus that could draw people into it.

    Keep in mind the owner of the company CCW is an adjunct professor at the Cleveland Institute of Art, his department is that of industrial design. He is surrounded by intellectuals?

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    Here is how the power sports institute operates…it attract it’s students nationally they can get in on a Pell Grant (fully federally funded) and often live in or on campus in dormitory style housing. These students usually look for part time work while attending.

    If a distributor was located on campus they could hire out of the student body and ideally the school would offer training on the distributors products.

    They eventually graduate and many may end up working for dealers some may even eventually open up their own dealerships?

    However that is not enough, funding or access to funding should also be to establish and industrial design school. Then that also in alignment with a school for global business process management. LOL some of the student of that could intern in a Chinese factory. Maybe those could be Chinese students that come here originally to attend college, this city and it’s universities already attract Chinese students.

    I would not make assumptions about the Chinese and adaptability or the percentages with them in current generations that can speak English and how many desire studying abroad.

    Research development and designing and also global economics and related business processes.

    I would like to see an educational institution that brought all level of the value chain under one common campus that actually had real business models within it. They say that people that cannot teach and those that can do…I’d like to find some people that can do both, teach and manage, learn and work, in real business models all at once. Its not communism its communal though, living and working on or in a campus, certainly would be cost effective and likely fun for those that would have an interest.

    They say it's really difficult to make anything happen in the USA…I'd like to just see an abandoned mall come back to life. I’d like to see something impressive instead of depressing.
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    MJH,
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