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  1. #801 Re: CCW tha Heist 
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    Thanks for the welcome, looking forward to catching up on all the info so far. I got the bike late last summer, might have been one of the first sold in the US. Unfortunaely I have not logged more than 100 miles so far (crazy I know, but been real busy).

    It is the '#6 kick for a 250cc dirtbike'. BUT, the pic on the site does not look like what i got in the mail. So I figure either 1.) they switched their product and didn't update the pic or 2.) they sent me the wrong item, which turned out to be the 'right' one for me. Hard to know.
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    Well rode the bike into class this morning and all went well till I went to start it after class. It just does not want to start...took about 10 times to get it going. Its about 95 degrees here and very humid so I can't wait to talk to Weaver next month when Im up that way.

    Kevin, will try to look at the chain and alignment later tonight and let you know. Thanks for the help
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    Quote Originally Posted by pereill View Post
    Well rode the bike into class this morning and all went well till I went to start it after class. It just does not want to start...took about 10 times to get it going. Its about 95 degrees here and very humid so I can't wait to talk to Weaver next month when Im up that way.

    Kevin, will try to look at the chain and alignment later tonight and let you know. Thanks for the help
    Barring any technical goofiness (safety switches, low batt, key/gas not on etc) Adjusting the carb will help.

    Here's how I adjust mine:
    I always start with the a/f screw set 1.5 turns out. Then I fire it up and crank up the idle a bit, then turn the a/f screw in and out slowly listening to the rpm of the engine. You're looking for the point where the idle runs it's highest. Once you get it turn the idle back down to normal. Now flick the throttle a few times, make sure it's crisp. At this point you may fine-tune the a/f screw slightly to get that crispy response.

    Should now fire up first kick every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pereill View Post
    Well rode the bike into class this morning and all went well till I went to start it after class. It just does not want to start...took about 10 times to get it going. Its about 95 degrees here and very humid so I can't wait to talk to Weaver next month when Im up that way.

    Kevin, will try to look at the chain and alignment later tonight and let you know. Thanks for the help
    Ok a few quick troubleshooting questions.

    Is the bike cranking?
    check your battery leads and make sure they are tight.
    Check the the kill switches are off.
    Make sure you are in neutral or that you have the clutch lever completely depressed.
    Have you tried to bump start it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kb96gt View Post
    CPN - Welcome and looks great! Have you had it long? Looks like one of the early ones with the rhon covers.

    ** Just to clarify for anyone looking to buy the lever... That is not the one shown in the link to buy it. I'd suggest contacting the seller and making sure you get the one shown on CPN's bike.
    Kevin - I may have missed it in this epic thread, but where'd you get your lever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdm2841 View Post
    Kevin - I may have missed it in this epic thread, but where'd you get your lever?
    The lever I have is the curved one actually pictured in the link. It rubs the g&d pipe slightly. Both CPN and I used the same link and received diff levers.

    I hear CCW has thier own levers coming out

    CPN we gotta be two of the first Heist riders around. Got mine last Aug. Got a lil over 1000 miles on it now. I'm pretty sure gardo does that in a week.
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    Question: Is anyone maintaining a list of upgrades and problems/fixes that have arisen so far? It might be nice to catalog these things in a table for future riders rather than try to sift through the threads..

    Kevin, yah must be. I got mine via Moto Scoot out of Milwaukee, (Harley Davidson Headquarters, hah). I think the pic of my bike is still on their webpage. I grew up in CT, but out here in the heartland there is no emissions testing, inspection.,etc kind of nice. Sounds like Mass. may have been a hassle?

    As far as upgrades, I bought a used G&D pipe from PIT which I baffled and just got my carb rejetted by Weaveriffic, and drag bars. Got a little more response on the throttle. Anything else you guys would recommend for performance? Not sure I want to spend $500 on a port and polish..just yet. Looking for El cheapo purchases that are easy to hide from the wife at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPN View Post
    Question: Is anyone maintaining a list of upgrades and problems/fixes that have arisen so far? It might be nice to catalog these things in a table for future riders rather than try to sift through the threads..

    Kevin, yah must be. I got mine via Moto Scoot out of Milwaukee, (Harley Davidson Headquarters, hah). I think the pic of my bike is still on their webpage. I grew up in CT, but out here in the heartland there is no emissions testing, inspection.,etc kind of nice. Sounds like Mass. may have been a hassle?

    As far as upgrades, I bought a used G&D pipe from PIT which I baffled and just got my carb rejetted by Weaveriffic, and drag bars. Got a little more response on the throttle. Anything else you guys would recommend for performance? Not sure I want to spend $500 on a port and polish..just yet. Looking for El cheapo purchases that are easy to hide from the wife at this point
    I have been working with Al from PIT Motors LTD and he is compiling a list. I am working on a website dedicated to the Heist and its riders that will have a FAQ section addressing these as well. Its slow going do to Work, school, and family but I hope to have something in place before the end of the East coast riding season.

    Cheap HP can be an index of the plug, havent tried it on my scoot yet but it used to work for my 82 Mustang GT

    Here is a great explanation of indexing
    What Is Indexing?

    Generally speaking, the idea of indexing is to position the spark plug so that its gap is facing the center of the cylinder, angled slightly toward the exhaust valve?the most common arrangement. (Some engines work better with other gap locations.) This is important because, as the piston approaches TDC, the air/fuel charge is being compressed. The charge or "mixture" is being forced toward the area of the spark plug?and normally, the exhaust valve. The true speed of this force inside the combustion chamber is extremely fast. Some experts speculate that it surpasses supersonic speeds.

    Because of this, the spark generated from the plug should be in a "position" to create the best possible flame front. Looking at a typical side-gap spark plug, you'll note that the electrode can actually block the flame process. On the other hand, if the electrode gap faces the on-rushing air/fuel charge, it stands a much better chance of igniting a flame front.

    How To Index

    How is a spark plug indexed? Simple: Mark the spark plug insulator body with a felt marker (never use a pencil, which acts the same as a carbon track inside your distributor cap) on the side where the ground electrode attaches to the spark plug body.

    There are two ways to index a plug the first is to mark the ceramic insulator on the plug to mark the electrode position and thread it into the head finger tight. Note the position of the electrode when the plug is tightened in the cylinder the gap should face the open space between the two intake valves on Duratec/Zetec engine. It may be necessary to buy several sets of plugs to get 4 or 6 plugs that index correctly.

    Instead of rummaging through boxes of spark plugs to find the elusive combination of perfect plug threads that match the cylinder head threads, one can also use indexing washers. These soft copper washers are available from the aftermarket and will fit both flat and tapered seat spark plugs. They're available in three thicknesses: 0.060-inch, 0.080-inch and 0.100-inch.

    Copper's inherent softness along with the various washer thicknesses make it simple to thread the spark plug into the cylinder head and tighten it to the point that the index mark is situated in the correct position relative to the combustion chamber. (Never double up washers; they aren't intended to be used in tandem.)

    Power Gains

    Real-world power gains vary. Some engines or combinations respond differently than others. In fact, all engines will pick up power, studies have shown an increase of 1-2%, but some gains will be more dramatic than others.

    In the end, it can't hurt to index the spark plugs. This can contribute to superior engine efficiency and improved economy.
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    since I have been asked about the venting of stock Gas caps here it is again
    Use a center punch and a 5/64 bit drill out the bottom of the cap and one hole on the knurled collar

    this is a pic of one that was done (not one I did)
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