How cold does it need to get before you put the bike away for winter.

[Barry]

After getting annoyed about riding in faked and "no feeling" skiing north face gloves I did a purchase and had a "test" ride for my new gloves last Sunday here in BJ at about -3 deg C.
Result: good grip feeling for brake & clutch, still acceptable temperature after 50km riding, fast warm up again after stopping a moment, f.... expensive
Anyway I can recommend it for riding all year in BJ.

http://s.taobao.com/search?q=BMW+pro...rceId=tb.index

No, i am not BMW employed :-)

What costs nothing in China ... is (quality wise) nothing in China

Too expensive for the bit of riding I do these few months!