JH600 stalling

[milton]

Barry and I just received our work-estimate from the Beijing JL disservice center.

2400 rmb (each)

Something's not right.

First check to see if the console is part of the package or not. It was in the original kit JL sent to me and I chose not to use it. Perhaps the labor is also included in the quote. Mine was 200 rmb, which was a steal.

I believe I was given a decent discount on the parts for my upgrade. Wonder how many guinea pigs are too many to qualify as guinea pigs any more.

Cheers!

[euphonius]

I believe I was given a decent discount on the parts for my upgrade. Wonder how many guinea pigs are too many to qualify as guinea pigs any more.

Dear Milton,

I strongly hope that Jialing are not using you and a few others of us as "guinea pigs" with this 3.0 upgrade path, but rather will offer it to anyone with a 2.0 bike who is suffering with this dangerous stalling problem. To be honest, they should be providing this at no charge at all. If they've used you to test the repair and now will offer it as a paid "upgrade" to everyone else, rather than as an honest repair to a seriously unsafe defective product, they deserve to rot in hell.

How about a progress report on your bike? Still running stall-free? After how many km? As you know, another 2.0 bike goes under the knife tomorrow morning, and we're all hoping for more stall-free outcomes!

Cheers

[milton]

How about a progress report on your bike? Still running stall-free? After how many km?

Dear Euphonius,

I am happy to report that so far I have not experienced any stalls. A perfect record of 0 stall for about 1000 km after the upgrade.

Cheers!

[euphonius]

Dear Milton,

Wow, that looks like it was money very well spent! Congratulations!

Hope to see you soon. We'll be at Yang Jie's shop tomorrow morning...

cheers

[Lao Jia Hou]

Dear SH brethren:

Barry & I were wondering:

1) exactly what parts are being replaced? I understand that it is the wiring harness, the ECU, and perhaps the gauge console?
2) how much are each of these parts? Are you folks ordering directly from CQ, or through a SH shop?
3) are you folks being charged 200 rmb for labor to R&R?

I am thinking about the possibility that Barry & I can just use my shop, and do this ourselves. Being a gentleman, and a polite Canadian, I would insist that we try Barry's bike first.

Merci, mon amis!

[998S]

I am thinking about the possibility that Barry & I can just use my shop, and do this ourselves.

I kind of oversaw the exchange on Milton's bike, done by Xiao Fan.

Basically it is just a swap, which can be done quite easily after removing most of the parts hidding the cable loom (fairing and parts, tank assembly, saddle, rear seat fairing and bag holders (if any)). Good time for a clean though!

However, be carefull, such a cable loom can be quite intimidating ... there is a point where you simply have to remove things first, replacing and re-connecting piece by piece does not work.....If you are able to do that, there is not much else to the whole process.

3 points to notice:
- There was a small issue on the right handle bar switch connector, 2 cable connectors need to be changed.
Xiao Fan checked colors and the electric diagrams.
- On Milton's bike, there was a modification done on his starting relay (right?) in the past.
Connections were reversed that time, and needed to be re-re-re-re-versed
- There is a small electric modification needed for the dash (if I remember well, something like reverse a transistor or so).

[Barry]

I am thinking about the possibility that Barry & I can just use my shop, and do this ourselves. Being a gentleman, and a polite Canadian, I would insist that we try Barry's bike first.

Wouldn't it be logical to fix the broken/barely working machine first, or did you adept chinese logic over night? And since I only have one bike at the moment, I find it rather annoying not having a bike available at all.

Perhaps we can offer someone in SH a small fee, to crate and ship Eric to BJ

[TB-Racing]

Perhaps we can offer someone in SH a small fee, to crate and ship Eric to BJ

G'day,

Have weekly chilled air-shipments to Beijing from Shanghai and quite sure we can find some free space.......

[euphonius]

Dear Beijing brethren,

We have the second JH600 going under the knife as we speak, may actually be finished by now. For a bit of spice, we organized to use a different shop -- one that is actually clean, tidy, organized, well lighted and staffed by professionals who actually work on lots of EFI bikes. We are trying to avoid having a monopoly service arrangement. Fortunately, here in Shanghai the guy who manages our after-sales support does not have a shop. But he manages liaison with Jialing, and we shop for the best service.

We should have a lot more answers to your questions soon.

cheers!

[MotoKai]

Motokai's Back!

Yes, per euphonius' above posting, I swapped out the ECU ("version whatever") for a new one ("version new"). As many have been following this saga play out, you'll remember I reached a certain limit with Whack-A-Mole fixes related to the throttle body/ECU and called the factory in CQ demanding a new ECU. Fed up with local Shanghai solution, I wanted to ship my bike to CQ for factory servicing. This is what prompted that [already posted] Jialing boondoggle visit to SH in December to "look" at my bike. This also caused a bit of Chinamoto Gossip Girl drama - it's hard to complain without the metaphorical bus taking someone out along the way.

Well, along with the actions of the coalition of the strong-willed (which includes Milton, Eric, Jeff, LJH, LZD...among others) this prompted Jialing to agree to sell (in another world the opportune word would be "replace") the ECU. You see, this fix needed to be referred to as "paid upgrade", not a recall of course. Call it what you want - I had mine done and I can't be happier.Rode home in the rain STALL FREE. If it wasn't raining, I think I would have just kept riding right into the mountains of Zhejiang (like Moganshan or somewhere). As jaded as I had become, the amount of joy I had on this short ride back home surprised me.

ECU and associated cables: RMB 1,350
Replacement labor: RMB 100
Riding a motorcycle with a smile: PRICELESS
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