Not making fun there Cully, just not used to seeing such verbose participation on your part in a while since your temporary absence. It will take some time for the rest of us to adjust to the NEW and improved motorcycle having Simon you know!

1900 or 2k was a fair price for the QLink but when they started asking around 3k they must have been trying to loose market share. Around 3k lots of people will start to look at some excellent second hand DR, KLx or any of the other good optios out there. I've even seen some small KTM's in that price range so whay not just save up a little more?

Bikes like this Shineray with the AX1 (NX250) based engine could hold some promise if they can price it right. But just like QingQi, if they don't go through direct distribution or can only find greedy short sighted importers then the road to success and name brand recognition will be long and perilous.

If CFMoto can do it, why can't the others?

CC