My blog of a Jetmax 250

[Zorge]

No rain today...

[WirralGhostHunter]

Well today I leave work and get to my scoot, lo and behold - no ignition lights - no nothing....
Oh dear! I thought - nah! it was a lot more colourful than that
Right stuck over 25 miles from home, I'd better ring the RAC (recovery).
An hour later they turn up, his first thought - the battery is dead. Volt meter connected - nope not that.
Where's your fuses he asks, I open up the glove box and he takes a look at all the fuses (in the little fuse box) - nope not them.
Next he looks at what he called the "main fuse" (in the white plastic container) nope not that.
He turns on the ignition - Surprise, surprise - NOTHING!
He continues fiddling with the wires (especially the main fuse) - holy schmoly, the ignition comes on
Then he asks what the flashing light on the dash is - errrm... I dont know... He says it may be a error light. (I should have read the manual)...
Any how I ride off, and fuel up three miles from home. Go to start up - NOTHING!.
Sh!t........ I know, fiddle with the wires - ignition comes on and starts, but the engine wont run and coughs and splutters. Sh!t...... Turn off and fiddle some more...
Fires up and runs - I hastily head home.
Right wheres that *@xx*@ manual.
OK, the pigeon English isn't that bad, I think I know how to read the flashes...
Back at the scoot I count the flashes....
One long - fifteen short...
Refer to the manual.
Ten and fifteen = 25 - errors with the roll sensors.
Any one know what roll sensors are, where they are, and why it would stop the ignition coming on - but then work with a bit o' fiddling....
First thing in the morning - telephone call to the supplier

[Zorge]

Roll (over) sensors? On a scooter?

I would sprinkle Jetmax with holy water. Just in case...

[bikerdoc]

roller sensors, hmmm are you sure you are reading the error code flashes correctly. The first series of flashes will be long so you count how many of those there are then how many short duration flashes follow. The long duration flashes equal multiple of ten (10) so one long flash equals ten (10), whereas two long flashes equals twenty (20). The short duration flashes are singles (multiples of one). Example two long flashes equal twenty (20), followed by two short flashes which would equal two (2). Add both together [20+2=22] and get twenty two (22). Sorry if I am telling you how to suck eggs. Just want to be sure you are calculating correctly. Let me know what you work out. Any help or questions just ask. I don't mind to help you out.

[WirralGhostHunter]

roller sensors, hmmm are you sure you are reading the error code flashes correctly. The first series of flashes will be long so you count how many of those there are then how many short duration flashes follow. The long duration flashes equal multiple of ten (10) so one long flash equals ten (10), whereas two long flashes equals twenty (20). The short duration flashes are singles (multiples of one). Example two long flashes equal twenty (20), followed by two short flashes which would equal two (2). Add both together [20+2=22] and get twenty two (22). Sorry if I am telling you how to suck eggs. Just want to be sure you are calculating correctly. Let me know what you work out. Any help or questions just ask. I don't mind to help you out.

Hi bikerdoc,
One long flash followed by fifteen short.

The manual states this:

ERROR TYPES = ERROR-SAFETYSW1

INDICATING FLASH = 25

ERROR DESCRIPTION = Errors with roll sensor


I called the distributer this morning, and they are looking into it

EDIT

OK, I've done some searching and found this (see attached pic), now where does this little gem live?

Roll Over Sensor.jpg

[Zorge]

A logical question is: WGH, were you able to locate this sensor on your scooter?

[WirralGhostHunter]

A logical question is: WGH, were you able to locate this sensor on your scooter?

Good question!

Nope! - I haven't had time to investigate.
The distributers are "looking into it" and say the will get back to me with the location of the offending item.
If it is easy to access, I assume they will send me a replacement.

[bikerdoc]

OK, first up a question WGH. Has your Jetmax been tipped onto its side at all? A little fall over perhaps? This is what that device monitors (tip over).

Try this remedy, to stop the flash (allow a several seconds between each step as below).
Ignition key off > roll the throttle wide open > turn on ignition key (keep throttle wide open) > turn on lights > release throttle > turn off ignition > switch on ignition (with lights on) > now press starter button.
Good luck.

[WirralGhostHunter]

OK, first up a question WGH. Has your Jetmax been tipped onto its side at all? A little fall over perhaps? This is what that device monitors (tip over).

Try this remedy, to stop the flash (allow a several seconds between each step as below).
Ignition key off > roll the throttle wide open > turn on ignition key (keep throttle wide open) > turn on lights > release throttle > turn off ignition > switch on ignition (with lights on) > now press starter button.
Good luck.

hey bikerdoc,
No, not the slightest of tips or fall....
I will try your remedy tonight, and will post results here. thanks for the reply

[WirralGhostHunter]

Unfortunately the sequence didn't cancel the error flash
But the distributers sent me out the new roll switch
Anyone know where I can find this on the scoot.
The manual isn't much help.
Calling bikerdoc...............Calling bikerdoc.................

RollSW_Bk.jpgRollSW_Fr.jpg

I should mention that the only way I can get the ignition to turn on is by disconnecting the master fuse, and reconnect it a few minutes later. It then starts its diagnostics and will fire up. This is not allways the rule, sometimes it still wont turn on and I have to try again.