New SkyTeam ST250 V-Raptor owner

[Zorge]

Yea, but as far as I could understand, prices vary seasonally. No so long ago price was around 110 euros/cbm. You can check shipping rates and prices for other services firsthand, because Weiss has office in Sofia too.

[MJH]

How about one of these?



Actually the minimum order is thirty, what you could do is contract with the shipping company and get price for shipping thirty and also renting the shipping container and then all you need is a field to park it in? You could sell Yamasaki Rednecks out of the shipping container.


Dream Bigger!

[culcune]

I know this is getting a little off-topic, but Skyteam's FB page which I believe is the Chinese headquarters replied to m e and another US guy that they are finalizing certification for the V-Raptor for the US! I will believe it when I see it, but the FB moderator didn't seem like he was fibbing.

[Krasi]

Well, it uses a "standard" 223cc Honda-clone engine anyway, so I guess it has been EPA certified in the past. MJH knows more if and how these EPA certifications are transferable.

Importing 30 units is pure trading for me, and this is what has happened and continue to happen with Chinese bikes. Some bloke decides to make "big bucks", imports a container or two, somehow (and I mean SOMEHOW) he manages to sell them to some peasants and then he's never heard from again. And then we have "Chinese bikes reputation"...

Unfortunately, in our part of the world (I mean mine and Zorge's), there is no market for "sustainable" import/trade. At least not yet. It's second-hand-imports-driven both for cars and bikes.

[MJH]

I am still tickled by the Yamasaki Redneck.





The Russian are selling these and all are only 50cc? They sell an entire line of 50cc Yamasaki.
http://yamasakimotor.ru/catalog.html

[Zorge]

Unfortunately, in our part of the world (I mean mine and Zorge's), there is no market for "sustainable" import/trade. At least not yet. It's second-hand-imports-driven both for cars and bikes.

When you write about the "sustainability of the market", can you figure out how Macedonian company "Hamachi", in the market with two million and change people, constantly improves their offer, while in Bulgaria and Serbia, both of the markets of the seven million and change people, even C-motos are sold bad in last 4-5 years, so that the local importers barely surviving?

The Russian are selling these and all are only 50cc?

As far as I'm familiar with Russian laws, for 50 cc mopeds/mokicks (for now) you don't need a license plate or any category of driving license. And then there's the trick with these horizontal engines - bigger displacements can not be easily identified with bare eye. Therefore, almost all the horizontals in documents in Russia are "50 cc". Plus, market for, so to speak, small displacement non-scooters, is huge. If we take into account that virtually all former Soviet moped manufacturers went into oblivion - http://www.scooterdigest.ru/pub.asp?id=5205&tid=1 , should not be surprising that there can be sold virtually every model of small displacement twowheelers.

[MJH]

That flushed out a bit of unwanted cyber activity, off the Russian hosting site.

[Krasi]

When you write about the "sustainability of the market", can you figure out how Macedonian company "Hamachi", in the market with two million and change people, constantly improves their offer, while in Bulgaria and Serbia, both of the markets of the seven million and change people, even C-motos are sold bad in last 4-5 years, so that the local importers barely surviving?

If I'd have to guess, one, motorcycles are not the only or at least not the main business of Hamachi, and two, the guys are not greedy and can actually look further than 3-6 months ahead.

[MJH]

They sell hydroxyl conversion systems?

[MJH]

Hamachi is diversified and also likely well financed, as to how well they are doing you really cannot see that, they website are well done, but that does not mean that much.