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  1. #31 Re: Zhejiang Jiajue Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd. 
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    So, what repair manual do you guys suggest
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    Raptor 125 a 15hp 2-stroke.
    This seems too much like Cagiva Raptor.
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    That is a Cagiva, that is what is made in the factory that once made the Aermacchi motorcycles, Cagiva is who Harley Davidson sold off the Aermacchi factory to, it was bought by MV Augusta /Cagiva, that now makes the Raptor. It has nothing do with Jiajue.
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    Seems that Jiajue has a distributor in the Ukraine, GEON. They are offering two bikes with the Zongshen 249cc water cooled single, it is a SOHC 4-Valve


    Geon Tossa





    Geon Issen
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    The Iseen could have black forks and also a cover for the aluminum radiator, who wants to see all the little bent over fins? They could make a louver cover for it, something otherwise it is not a bad looking bike.


    The Tossa is just a CBR250 clone.


    Prices: 29,340 RPH = $3,602.00 USD
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    Tossa? Are you freaking serious?

    Don't sell in Britain 'Hello you Tossa' everywhere you go.
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    Tossa not Tosser, a Tossa is a expression that describes a person that did not shake the dice before a roll. A Tosser is a Wanker or a noun form of the verb as in wank/toss. In America it be the equivalent of a Jack off.

    But your right for the UK it be to close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    Seems that Jiajue has a distributor in the Ukraine, GEON. They are offering two bikes with the Zongshen 249cc water cooled single, it is a SOHC 4-Valve
    Yes, Ukrainian importer, company "Svitmoto" offered to customers those bikes at the end of the winter, they were mentioned in Geon forum ( http://geon-club.com.ua/forum/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=2866 ), but it seems that there is still no buyers.


    Quote Originally Posted by ZMC888 View Post
    Tossa? Are you freaking serious?

    Don't sell in Britain 'Hello you Tossa' everywhere you go.
    You did not see all. Combing Russian and Ukrainian moto forums, I found a lot of interesting names for motorcycles: Zonder Gans (when you pronounce it, sounds like german words Sonder Hans (Special Hans)), Defiant Cizeta (this Cizeta is so similar to word Chezeta, how are, long ago, nickanamed chech ČZ bikes), Eriskay Marlboro, Nexus Roar, Bonez, Musstang, Lizard Lux, Alphamoto Harley (mini chopper with horizontal engine). For me are particularly funny names written in Latin script, apparently transliterated Russian or Ukrainina words; for me, that is lingustic fornocation: Viper Zubr (OK, Viper is venomous snake, but Zubr means bison, so we got the creature which was not devised even in Greek mythology), Korsar (Corsair), Irokez (Iroquois), Sintez (Synthesis), Hors (I hope that the one who "baptized" this bike, was reffering to sun god in Slavic mythology, not simply left out the letter "e" at the end of word).
    Ask me nothing - I DO NOT speak english. Really...
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    The Issen is being advertised for less at $3,499.00
    http://makeevka.don.slando.ua/obyavl...a-ID6BKGx.html


    Issen has no real meaning, but has some possible interpretations. A one hit kill,
    http://onimusha.wikia.com/wiki/Issen
    Worth a penny
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issen_gorin


    Is the manufacturing of these Honda copies a Chinese motorcycle industry cooperative initiative? They are all collectively making these simultaneously? It is the oddest damn thing.
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    I like the approach that Jiajue is taking to the market, they primarily sell scooters and added 250cc motorcycles.


    They offer motorcycles versions with either the Zongshen 250 which seems to be getting some traction in the markets. They also offer a DOHC 4-valve single 250.


    Close to 30hp for some of these engines, which means that they are not under powered. They also both have 6 speed gear boxes so they will not vibrate too much at higher speed cruising.


    I personally would like to see a less assuming design, for the engines.



    This a revision of a Sanglas, a once Spanish brand,. the original had an air cooled engine. It is a simple and unassuming design. This is the work of Oberdan Bezzi, he really does not want the design to be recreated with Chinese parts, he even states that in his comments on the proposed rendition. He wants it to be robust.


    I personally believe it could be made in China and also made robust, I think it could use either the NX250 engine,or the Zongshen NAC250 or even the Loncin 300cc, certain details could be taken from other models, one for sure would be the headlight and gauges off an early model Suzuki GS125.




    Certain element of the design should not be lost, the air box extends forward to cover the carburetor, the radiator is shrouded, the rendition that Oberdan offers has a 660 Yamaha single, I believe that a 30hp single in such a design would suffice.
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