Shanghai plates - price and advice

[Snev313]

Hi bikerdoc,

thanks, those are very useful things I will keep in mind when it comes to the day I buy the bike.... I have to wait until the Shineray X5 series production start .... But I don't want to wait too long as I agree with Euphonius... no matter what I will buy in the end... the price will go up till it collapse one day (eventually ;) ... even for Suzhou plates etc.

Anybody know the actual prices there?

Shanghai = 130 - 140k
Suzhou = ?
Hangzhou = ?

From the limitations, yes, my colleague told me the same, that actually it can be handled all in Shanghai (or at least for his car ;) Only the elevated roads are prohibited in the mornings and evenings. But you aren't allowed with the bike there anyway...

Anybody here in the forum with good experience with an out of town plate for bikes, mean does it work the same way as for cars? One other thing I heard lately... I've heard that with the C-Plate at some Gas Stations you will get no fuel downtown.... is this true ?

[euphonius]

...I've heard that with the C-Plate at some Gas Stations you will get no fuel downtown.... is this true ?

True. But not just for a Shanghai 沪C plate. Same for out of town plates.

cheers!

[vale46]

So guys,

Stats time. I have someone in the business estimating a total of around 4000 沪A plates existing in SH. What's your feel/knowledge about this? And 沪Cs ? Anyone has any reliable source?

Cheers

[bikerdoc]

So guys,

Stats time. I have someone in the business estimating a total of around 4000 沪A plates existing in SH. What's your feel/knowledge about this? And 沪Cs ? Anyone has any reliable source?

Cheers

Interesting point... but...

TIC! best to replace that word with guestimating.

To be precise, have your friend point you, then the collective readership at MCM to the source of those figures.

Not getting at you, but when people tell me about stats in China, I kind of roll the eyes a little, since I work in a professional field, highly involved in statistical analysis and research. There's plenty to consider when looking at a set of numbers. I've seen and heard plenty of the stats being bandied about in all kinds of context here in China over the years, and have learnt to take most of them with a "grain of salt" since few have been anywhere near accurate or reflective of what the stats are meant to have measured.

[TB-Racing]

Anyone has any reliable source?

oldie but a goldie... read old news below....

Shanghai Restricts Motorcycles
Police chiefs in Shanghai have put the brakes on motorcycles using major roads in a traffic order which took effect Tuesday.
The ban will affect 789,000 motorcycles in the city, including 149,000 that are being used without licenses. Police revealed riders will be forbidden on some roads within the Inner Ring Road, three areas in Pudong New Area, and some areas bordering neighboring provinces.


They stressed the measure would meet the requirements stated in the city's urban transportation white paper issued last month.


The paper highlighted the development of public transport as a major solution to Shanghai's future traffic needs.


It stated that motorcycles should be banned from major roads in the city center, and the overall number using roads in the financial hub should be reduced over several years.


The move was similar to Beijing's restrictions on the running and administration of motorcycles. As early as 1984, the police stopped issuing new licensees to motorcycle drivers, said an official with the Beijing Public Security Bureau of Traffic Administration.


In 2000, the bureau adopted a new regulation that forbade motor tricycles with licensees from running on roads in the downtown area and the eight nearby suburb districts.


Zhu Yinglei, deputy director of Shanghai Public Security Bureau, said: "The ban on motorcycles is designed to achieve a higher efficiency of the city's transport network in line with the white paper."


Motorcycles form 55 percent of the total number of vehicles in the city.


But research has found that motorcycles shoulder just 2.1 percent of the total daily transportation load.


The rise in the number of the motorcycles is also posing a headache to civic leaders. In 1997, only 40,000 were in use in the city.


"The surge in the number the motorcycles over the past five years has posed a threat to the city's traffic," Zhu said.


Last year, motorcycles caused 2,265 traffic accidents, accounting for 5.38 percent the total accidents in the city. A total of 237 people died in accidents caused by motorcycles, around 15.77 percent of the death toll on roads.


"Robbers on motorcycles also attacked pedestrians and other cyclists from time to time," Zhu added.


To achieve the goal of reducing the number of motorcycles in use, police said some cyclists may be allowed to change their motorcycle plates into private car plates free of charge.


"But considering different people's purchasing power, the exchange of plates is still under discussion," Zhu added.


(China Daily July 31, 2002)

[SabineHartmann]

11 year old news, that's great. Do they not have this 5 year plans?

[TB-Racing]

Suzhou = ?
Hangzhou = ?

S & H issue legal bike plates again?

[bikerdoc]

Hangzhou; No.
Suzhou; it depends. HD Suzhou have a special arrangement for any HD's they sell there. Anybody else, they're on their own.

[TB-Racing]

Suzhou; it depends. HD Suzhou have a special arrangement for any HD's they sell there. Anybody else, they're on their own.

your talking legit / legal all access (Suzhou City) plates, not the dodgy Jiangsu "H" plates....

[TB-Racing]

Suzhou; it depends. HD Suzhou have a special arrangement for any HD's they sell there.

your talking legit / legal all access (Suzhou City) plates, not the dodgy Jiangsu "H" plates....

now, my EU mate living in Suzhou (not on MCM) and working at SIP had his secretary call up HD Suzhou for registration after a new HD bike purchase from HD Suzhou and gets very funny excuses.
whats the deal, any first hand experience or direct contact person at the HD Suzhou dealership (via PM welcome as well) who is able to shed some light onto the legal options with Suzhou plates and rego (Suzhou City all access).