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  1. #31 Re: SSR / Pioneer XF250 
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    Where can these be purchased in the US?I am having a hard time finding them.
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  4. #34 Re: SSR / Pioneer XF250 
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    I like your answer better!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben2go View Post
    Where can these be purchased in the US?I am having a hard time finding them.
    See if Rwerksman who started this thread does mail order, too. He has an online site which MJH had linked to somewhere on this thread.

    Www.motorcycleinsight.com
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  6. #36 Re: SSR / Pioneer XF250 
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    Hi

    I assume that the SSR 250 is similar if not identical to the Pulse Adrenaline 250 which has recently went on sale in the UK
    http://www.chinesemotorcycledealers.co.uk/XF250GY.php

    A dealer quoted me power output of 12.9KW (17 odd HP) which I think is quite low considering the KTM Duke 200 puts out 25HP (I realise it isn't a fair comparison)

    I quite fancy an Adrenaline 250 but the lack of power is putting me off unless of course you guys know how to get more out of it?

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    This engine is air-cooled, but I am assuming the KTM is liquid-cooled. There are Chinese 250cc bikes with liquid cooling that are putting out a claimed 25hp, as well.

    The nice thing about these Qingqi/Pioneer bikes is they use a near clone of the Suzuki DR 125/200/250 engines.

    You might want to stay away from the engine with modifications (Chinese engines don't seem to have many aftermarket parts, probably for a reason), but many people change the jets in the carb, and swap out sprockets which easily wake the bikes up. Forthe longest time, we could only get the Qingqi 200 in the US, and one of the dealers and FMF had a custom exhaust for it. There may be an aftermarket pipe for the DR that fits?! But it would depend on what kind of performance you wanted.

    It seems the price for a Duke is about twice the Pulse, but I doubt it is twice the bike.
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    All thing considered, the Bajaj KTM bikes are too pricey,
    4000 GBP for the 125, 4200 for the 200 and 4500 for the 390.

    Pulse 125 is 1500 GBP and the 250 is 2000


    The Suzuki 250 Inazuma is 3500, its not really comparable because it is perceived as way too gey looking, for most men, however in Europe that may make it popular?


    There is a more comparable bike that may be eventually coming out of the Pioneer factory, a water cooled 250cc that would be more comparable to the 200cc Duke. I believe it will likely have the new Zongshen 250cc?





    What is interesting about that bike is that it would be the first totally new design generated by CCW’s founder Scott Colosimo. You can see his work in Sinnis dealers as well, he brought the Sinnis 125cc classic style bikes to the market. They are selling for 1800 GBP, a bit pricey eh?


    I have a suggestion, that trellis framed super moto could be sold through Pulse and it could be priced between 2000 and 3000GBP.
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  9. #39 Re: SSR / Pioneer XF250 
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    Zongshen seems to be doing the most for the industry with it introducing its NC250 engine, the engine is showing up in many models coming out of many factories.


    Another engine worth considering the Dongben 250/300 particularly the later CD173MM with 30hp, not that it would be comparable to the KTM Duke 390 with 40hp, but certainly something that would deserve to be noticed.
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    All very good points, wish I had the time to wait for these higher power 250's but I had my 650 Kawasaki versus stolen recently and I need transport as soon as the insurance pays out.

    The issue with the Adrenaline 250 is I have 20 mins motorway as part of my daily commute, I suspect it should do 70mph but overtaking will be an issue. I did have an Adrenaline 125 before I passed my test and despite many saying they are rubbish I loved it and had no issues at all in the 20 months I had it.

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