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#51 Re: Beijing gas station refueling09-28-2013, 11:05 AM
There are an increasing number of these stories, as the people who believe "it will never happen to me" are caught. One only has to take a cursory glance at the Chinese boards to read about such incidents, or watch BTV's (Beijing TV) daily Traffic Report (dinner time) - it seems to devote one day/week to those evil motorcycles, usually showing some poor sap being carted off, often in tears (good for effect).
On the Chinese boards, I've read about undercover policemen at gas stations. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue what to look for. A Chinese person would probably know.
BTW, that "report to a nearby police station with papers" is ominous - be interesting to know the outcome. I know, personally, two foreigners who were told the same. One ended up in admin detention. The other was due to leave the country in 2 days, and never reported. He's never been back.
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#52 Re: Beijing gas station refueling11-15-2013, 06:30 AM
Strangely (given the government meeting in Beijing the past few days), over the past couple of weeks I have not once been asked for my Blue Book or DL. Maybe half a dozen fills on various bikes, both 京A & 京B plated. Calm before the storm? Or just backing off? No idea.
I've seen on Chinese forums that some riders are now calling 110 (the police) each time a station asks for documents, apparently successfully getting the station to back off. I've no idea how that works.
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11-15-2013, 06:57 AMI got asked for everything today and when I said I brought the blue book for the wrong bike, they just said doesn't matter and filled me up.
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#55 Re: Beijing gas station refueling11-17-2013, 09:41 PM
If the use of forged licence plates is rampant in Beijing and Shanghai, then it seems obvious the police would target petrol service stations rather than pulling people over at random on the roads and causing traffic blockages. They know that people riding motorcycles will require petrol at some point so waiting at petrol stations to check licence plates is dead easy. Better still if they can have the petrol station attendants do that job for them.
Why do people used forged licence plates if having your vehicle confiscated is a possibilty?
Seems very odd...
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#56 Re: Beijing gas station refueling11-17-2013, 11:37 PM
The majority of fake-plated bikes are stolen either from within China, or some other country (and then smuggled in). The next largest group of illegal bikes would be those that are bought at auction (as an insurance write-off) in some other country (e.g., Japan, USA, etc) and then smuggled in. Next would be those stolen overseas (by special order) and then smuggled into China.
People buy stolen/junkers because of price. A legal BMW 1200GS is about 250,000 rmb (new) and you have to add 10% tax and the plate price (130K in Shanghai, 60K in Beijing). Alternately, you can go to Tianjin and get an illegal one for about 100K, and pay only 200 rmb for fake plates/documents.
It is simply a question of one's morality (or lack thereof) ... would you want to ride someone else's stolen pride & joy? Or would you like to ride a bike that perhaps has a cracked frame, or has been water-submerged (e.g., from a hurricane/tsunami), waiting for a disaster to happen?
And, sadly, even if your bike is seized, there are ways to get it back. The legal system in China is still developing, and some people (sans ethics) are taking advantage of it while they can.Last edited by Lao Jia Hou; 11-18-2013 at 12:02 AM.
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#59 Re: Beijing gas station refueling11-18-2013, 02:24 AM
^exactly... ChinaV... exactly...
as is said...
'the difficult things are easy, and the easy things are difficult'
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#60 Re: Beijing gas station refueling11-18-2013, 03:27 AMIf the use of forged licence plates is rampant in Beijing and Shanghai, then it seems obvious the police would target petrol service stations rather than pulling people over at random on the roads and causing traffic blockages.LMMC/LAMF
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