Zongshen RX3

[bikerdoc]

...I found two dealerships, neither of which were actually shown in my search by the way, and asked them with my smart phone if they could order the two bikes i was interested in. One is a zongshen dealership but both said that they could get either one so im going to go with the one that helps me out most with the driving license...

Keep in mind that if you order through a dealer that is not an authorised sales agent/distributor then there might be problems in the event of a warranty claim etc. What some dealers do when they are not official sales/distributors of a particular brand is, via their often extensive network, is, buy the make & model the buyer wants, via another authorised dealer, effectively meaning the bike passes through two dealers 'hands', and then onsells it to the buyer, with the buyer often unaware of this, until a warranty issue raises its ugly 'head'. The first dealer though is the official dealership, and any warranty issues etc., will normally require the bike to return to that point of sale, especially if the warrantable item is anything deemed substantial. One needs to factor in the service and support that such a dealer might be able to provide on a make/model they're likely to be unfamiliar.

The other point to keep in mind here, is the seller will tell you anything you want to hear, just so as you can spend your money with them. Once you have spent your money, is often (not always) where the relationship changes.

My proverb: Everything in Ch!na is just for looking, be[A]ware the smoke and mirrors, for nothing is as it seems.

[gjackson4431]

That is a good point. This is a small part of the reason i went with this bike over the X5. I could only find this one zongshen dealership near where im living. I did order the RX3 by the way from an authorized zongshen dealership and it should arrive on the 3rd!

[modron]

Fingers crossed. When I went to a dealer he recommended RX3 without hesitation. He said that zongshen knows how to make a good bike and hes calm about its quality ;) hah

Here some nice pix
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=20210234336

[Barry]

Fingers crossed. When I went to a dealer he recommended RX3 without hesitation. He said that zongshen knows how to make a good bike and hes calm about its quality ;) hah

I don't see why you would even consider getting this heavy bike ( that yet has to prove itself), to gain a little bit more off road capability over your YBR? I would go for the X2 in your case, at least you know what you get yourself into and it's more off road capable than this RX3 I'd say.

[MJH]

Id be reluctant to rely on the specification for Chinese bikes, they are seldom straight forward and sometimes not accurate and not often apples to apples for comparison, then you have torque and ratios to consider, but for that you need accurate weights as for fully laden.
The RX3 is certainly heavier then the X2 and it is not entirely clear why, might be in part fueled and cases and crash bars…the RX3 is not as dual sport as the X2 however the RX3 appears to be very practical as a commuter and especially with the luggage cases.

[bikerdoc]

Fingers crossed. When I went to a dealer he recommended RX3 without hesitation. He said that zongshen knows how to make a good bike and hes calm about its quality ;) hah

Here some nice pix
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=20210234336

Read my reply... 'it's more likely that a PRC seller/dealer will tell you what you want to hear'... in your case modron, the dealer may have a hidden agenda for telling you that. Maybe he receives a better profit margin on Zongshen, maybe there is a more direct relationship with the company, maybe there are too many in stock and he has incentive to help shift the RX3.

FWIW, take whatever a seller/dealer in PRC says with a 'grain of salt', maybe two grains.

[modron]

I know, I know. And i do agree with you that everything is China is just for looking. They sell tangerines in beautiful bamboo boxes padded with satin cloth and styrofoam here where I live.
I did not go to this dealer to ask about the RX3 but about the X2X, X5 and QM250. He came up with the RX3 by himself. As you said maybe he gets better commission from Zongshen.
The interesting thing is that he never heard about QM250...only about QM200 ;)

I don't see why you would even consider getting this heavy bike ( that yet has to prove itself), to gain a little bit more off road capability over your YBR? I would go for the X2 in your case, at least you know what you get yourself into and it's more off road capable than this RX3 I'd say.

I really dont.
What I think of is selling my YBR and buying JH600 or keeping YBR and buying X2. My gf complains that there is no space for her when I put those huge 35l boxes on my wee YBR. I have to think about her a little ;) but still I might just get smaller boxes and the X2 haha dunno

[zhu]

modron your girlfriend will have plenty to complain about sitting on the back of an x2 for any length of time.

[Barry]

modron your girlfriend will have plenty to complain about sitting on the back of an x2 for any length of time.

You mean hanging of the back of the X2 ;) The first thing I removed from my X2 were the passengers' foot pegs!

If you need a bike that can carry 2 persons comfortably, go for the JH600 or X5.

In my case, since I already had the JH600 I went for the X2 since I wanted a more off road capable bike. Sure it's possible to get the JH through all kinds of terrain, but when it's hot and you're all geared up and carrying luggage and perhaps a passenger, it can be quite tough to muscle the top heavy JH beast through terrain/TIC events. The passengers seat of the JH is more comfortable than the the riders seat in my opinion. Don't get me wrong about the JH, I still love it but am just less eager to take it off road now.

I haven't traveled on my X2 yet, but I would like to in the future. The X2 can carry a passenger but trust Zhu and me, you don't want a passenger on the back for more than a few kilometers! Unless you want to travel like "Dumb & Dumber" (if anyone still remembers that scene from the movie ;)).

If I could only have one bike right now for what ever reason, I would most likely go for the X5. But it would need proper truing of the rims before traveling 2 up on it, it's other weaknesses/need to do's can be found in ShuBen's thread.