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    Unfortunately for Uniteks their website is not functioning. That is who is bringing these bikes to the market in Turkey. They are collectively importing and distributing for Indian, SYM, Victory and created a brand called Motoran that utilizes the typical Chinese multiple OEM business model.
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    Sometimes I think - "this one is a brand-new bike, even the paint had not dried", but in most cases I'm wrong.

    This... um... "brand-new" "Qingqi" QM 150 9R's design is not so new.

    Last year's, May issue of the magazine "Moto Expert" - introduction of "Rapira Destra" and "Rapira Mirage" (beyond belief, it is not named "Sinistra" ) - http://rapira.nethouse.ru/static/doc...e4zlpsqvzb.pdf

    Both are 150 cc, although "experts" in the article are trying to convince us that this is clone CG, as much I can see, this is balanced CB clone. In this article, they emphasize bike's Italian design (hence "Tricolore Italiano" on side panels). They also mentioned that "Zongshen" made this bike (!!!).

    Official site - http://rapiramoto.ru/

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    "Rapira Mirage"

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    "Rapira Destra"

    "Qingqi", "Zongshen", "Junak", "Rapira"... "The truth is out there"....
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    even the gauges are the same, Piaggio Robinson, Zongshen Z-one all the same

    I wonder if the person that created the website for QM mixed up photos? Took some images of a ZS and made them into a QM...that or QM saw the popularity of the Z-one and decided to copy it?
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    Oh, my... I Forgot about this Chinese "Piaggios"! Good eye MJH!

    So, this design is almost three year old.

    BTW, "Zong's" bike "Z-One" donesn't have this cute "dent" on a fuel tank, and the seat cushion is different.

    About who copied whom: perhaps we are witnessing how one design is becoming common for a whole range of C-moto factories, just as we saw recently the same thing with "Honda's" XRE 300.
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    I think so, I have seen others with copies as well. The Z-one was a big seller for Zongshen, both domestically and for exporting.
    They changed the design for 2015.
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    As aspected, flood begins.

    On "Alibaba", "Guangdong Yatian" offers their "Mrs. Robinson".

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    coo, coo ca-choo
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    I'm still waiting for her, to keep breaking my heart and shake my confidence daily.

    A propos "Rapira" bikes: their importer, on its website uploaded parts catalog.

    On each page pops "Piaggio's" logo with some Chinese characters below.

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    So, these are the bikes are really "Zongshen's".
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    There are not many photos, video clips or articles about "U-Zeal" series based scrambler, therefore here is a clip of the "MASH Scrambler 125"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorge View Post
    There are not many photos, video clips or articles about "U-Zeal" series based scrambler, therefore here is a clip of the "MASH Scrambler 125"

    These are a culmination of the efforts of CCW and Qingqi, partnering with Pioneer.

    CCW is not offering the Suzuki engines, they only offer their version with a 229cc OHV Lifan engine. They also do not offer the Scrambler version. You can buy these online through PIT Motors.

    Pioneer also has versions advertised on Alibaba.

    I believe the bike is only called a U-Zeal in China? Qingqi worked with CCW to develop these.

    I would like to see the Scrambler with a GN250 engine. The GN250 has dual exhaust even though it is a single, two pipes down the side would look better IMO.
    I would suggest then to replicate the exhaust on a 1970 Honda CL350, it could be configured to fit the GN250 dual exhaust ports.

    It is a shame that Wonjan decided to become Space Rangers, I still think that they are all opium addicts. They should have a line of GN250 bikes and they do not.
    The GN250 can be bored out and oil cooled, it be worth the time to do that to see if it can be in that increased displacement fuel injected. Qingqi offers Suzuki engines that are coated with a black finish and then the fins uncovered as brushed metal. That engine in that video has that.
    I would like to see the GN250 with that finish and the cl350 Honda dual exhaust. They do not do that simply because of the costs.


    Then of course the Big Boy version with a GN250 is still missing.
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