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#1 newbee02-26-2009, 12:01 AM
Hi folks
First time on the site. Kind semi retired and with a place down in Sanya. Will be lookin for a cickle next winter but got few questions about China. Would preciate yer sperience.
- is it illegal to buy a second hand bike in China as some web pages have said
- Can I buy an XL or XR 650 Honda in China? Is it made here or in Japan and imported?
- What provinces allow bikes that big to be registered? Hainan is only 250.
- What cities can I not ride a bike through?
- There are no Honda shops in China so where would I find a Honda?
- Some people say you can buy a bike but not a plate. What about that?
Thanks
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02-26-2009, 05:08 AMis it illegal to buy a second hand bike in China as some web pages have said.
Can I buy an XL or XR 650 Honda in China? Is it made here or in Japan and imported?
What provinces allow bikes that big to be registered? Hainan is only 250.
What cities can I not ride a bike through?
Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou etc. Bigger city usually equals more restrictions.
Caution cynical rant ahead ...............
The culture here is that cars are just plain wonderful in every way, they give you status keep you dry in the rain cool in the summer and warm in the winter. You can transport your family and friends around and generally impress everyone. So who would want a bike? Bikes? They get in the way of our car and if it goes faster than a Volkswagen Santana that must be dangerous and annoying, plus people who are poorer usually ride bikes. So we should find a way to legislate them off the road despite the fact that they hardly use up any road-space and use far less fuel than a car.
There are no Honda shops in China so where would I find a Honda?
Some people say you can buy a bike but not a plate. What about that?
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#3 Name of rego change is possible02-26-2009, 05:35 AM
Name of registration (for a bike) can be changed and it has been done:
- foreigner -> foreigner
- foreigner -> Chinese
- Chinese -> foreigner
- Chinese -> Chinese
It is only possible if you have the green book, the "Motor Vehicle Register Certificate" (MVRC).
I think they introduced this doc sometime around 2002 - 2004. All vehicles, for which ownership shall be changed and MVRC is not available, the current owner has to apply for one first.
But, as 888 said, TIC. Every village has different rules
AndyLast edited by chinabiker; 02-26-2009 at 05:48 AM.
Andy
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02-26-2009, 05:40 AM
Oh, it can be done! I learn something new everyday!
I doubt the cops in my area could be bothered to actually change it though, unless you had a baijiu dinner with them.
Although you probably need a residency visa to put it into your name.
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Andy
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#6 residency visa02-26-2009, 02:11 PM
My wife still has a Chinese passport and we own a condo in Hainan. Is that enough to get me a resident visa? What are the requirements?
We are only coming once in the winter for now.
Getting back to the Hong Kong Honda imports, what % duty would need to be paid if I were to go that route? Is it a simple procedure or have they conviluted it so much that I need a broker's assistance?
Oh ya, one more law that I heard about is that vehicles (of any sort?) can only be registered for a maximum of 12(normal) or 15 years(BMWs) before they won't register them any more. If this is true, in a small hicksville town I understand that you could buy yourself a registration but what about bigger towns?
And lastly, this Jialing 600; I guess the advantage of it is that parts are available but is it anywhere near as good a bike as its Japanese counterparts?
Thanks Marty
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02-26-2009, 04:36 PMMy wife still has a Chinese passport and we own a condo in Hainan. Is that enough to get me a resident visa? What are the requirements?
So if you are happy to do maybe as few as 12 hours a week for a school for a year you could get a residency visa (usually you need two years teaching experience and a university degree, but some schools have connections and some regions don't enforce the rules harshly). Or if you have worked in business, and you know some businesses you could pull in some favors and get on the books of a business.
I don't like the system at all, but no residency visa means no Chinese driving license (and they won't recognize your home license or international driving permit as valid), and no chance to register the bike in your name. Being married entitles you to stay in the country for up to one year as a visitor without working, which renewable, but you loose certain rights compared with residency.
Getting back to the Hong Kong Honda imports, what % duty would need to be paid if I were to go that route? Is it a simple procedure or have they conviluted it so much that I need a broker's assistance?
Oh ya, one more law that I heard about is that vehicles (of any sort?) can only be registered for a maximum of 12(normal) or 15 years(BMWs) before they won't register them any more. If this is true, in a small hicksville town I understand that you could buy yourself a registration but what about bigger towns?
And lastly, this Jialing 600; I guess the advantage of it is that parts are available but is it anywhere near as good a bike as its Japanese counterparts?
For example, I ride this.....
(Sundiro) Honda CBF150
Would like to buy this.................
Asiawing Spark 500
And if I lived back home would be riding something like this........
Honda CBF600
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