CCW tha Heist

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Originally Posted by barnone

Gardo,
Are you saying that your engine has higher compression for some unknown reason? What compression ratio is Weaver getting when testing your engine? How is he testing your engine? Is your engine badly carboned up from running too rich?

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I believe what Gardo is referring to is the compression in the cylinder not the compression ratio. The compression ratio on the 167FMM-M is 9-2.1 and will run fine with 87 grade Petrol. If the head is milled .025" it will raise it to 10.5, if there is enough clearance and it is milled .050" it will bump it up 2 full points. Anything above 10.5 and you should run 93 Octane Petrol. At that point you may also want to invest in a variable CDI one with a potentiometer so you can adjust the spark curve if need be to prevent the dreaded sound of engine knock

Well got a voltage regulator in the mail and seemed to fix the charging issue mine had straight from the dealer, but after riding in the country doing anywhere from 40-55mph bike just shuts down, and you have to choke the hell out of it to get it started again. They're trying to find a shop around me willing to look at it to save me from a 2hr drive back to the closest dealer to me. I love the bike but I wish I could just get this thing fixed so I can enjoy it! Hearing all these stories of you guys enjoying your bikes makes me jealous as hell! Hopefully soon for me though.

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Originally Posted by SSR22925

I believe what Gardo is referring to is the compression in the cylinder not the compression ratio. The compression ratio on the 167FMM-M is 9-2.1 and will run fine with 87 grade Petrol. If the head is milled .025" it will raise it to 10.5, if there is enough clearance and it is milled .050" it will bump it up 2 full points. Anything above 10.5 and you should run 93 Octane Petrol. At that point you may also want to invest in a variable CDI one with a potentiometer so you can adjust the spark curve if need be to prevent the dreaded sound of engine knock

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SSR,
Thanks for your info. I understand the difference between compression ratio and engine compression.

I am asking Gardo why he thinks that his 167FMM has a higher compression ratio without making any changes to the engine such as milling the head or changing the piston and how Weaver is measuring what he says is increased compression ratio.

I have a gauge to measure engine compression that I use to trouble shoot engine problems but that gauge will not measure compression ration. To measure compression ratio would require measuring cylinder and head volume at BDC and TDC and computing the ratio. Some way of measuring are explained at
http://www.sacoriver.net/~red/uccr.html

What is the line coming at the bottom of the carb? I took all the epa crap off and ran the vent hose to it and blocked the ones on the top and right side of the carb.

^ x2 i would also like to know what the line was. it is supposed to be vented to the atmosphere correct?

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Originally Posted by lewnor

What is the line coming at the bottom of the carb? I took all the epa crap off and ran the vent hose to it and blocked the ones on the top and right side of the carb.

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That a drain line for emptying the float bowl. There is a screw head at the low side of the float bowl that will drain the fuel out of the float bowl.

well i got a call from p.i.t. today again and i think they solved the issue i was having with my bike! turns out the gas tank wasn't venting properly and causing it to die. rode around this evening with the gas cap loose and it seemed to run perfect. hopefully this is the culprit of my problem and if so it will be fixed by monday! although it's supposed to rain every day next week...... but at least i am able to ride it if it decides to be nice one day! beyond excited for this. thanks to everyone at p.i.t. awesome guys! and a big thanks to my dealer for getting things rolling on the situation.

Should I unhook the tank vent line at the tank and just have the fuel line be the only line going in to the carb?

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Originally Posted by lewnor

Should I unhook the tank vent line at the tank and just have the fuel line be the only line going in to the carb?

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And what port should it be plugged in to if it needs to be hooked up?

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Originally Posted by mk2gtirob

well i got a call from p.i.t. today again and i think they solved the issue i was having with my bike! turns out the gas tank wasn't venting properly and causing it to die. rode around this evening with the gas cap loose and it seemed to run perfect. hopefully this is the culprit of my problem and if so it will be fixed by monday! although it's supposed to rain every day next week...... but at least i am able to ride it if it decides to be nice one day! beyond excited for this. thanks to everyone at p.i.t. awesome guys! and a big thanks to my dealer for getting things rolling on the situation.

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Good news man. Find a break in the rain and post up how it all goes!

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Originally Posted by lewnor

Should I unhook the tank vent line at the tank and just have the fuel line be the only line going in to the carb?

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The tank vent under the gas tank? I left it connected at the tank and ran it to vent at the front of the bike. Tucked it in one of the tabs with the cables at the neck.

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Originally Posted by Kb96gt

The tank vent under the gas tank? I left it connected at the tank and ran it to vent at the front of the bike. Tucked it in one of the tabs with the cables at the neck.

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I have mine run the same exact way

Hey guys, finally headed down to go pick up the bike this morning. Will let you guys know how it goes and get some pics as soon as I can

I'll try that. All the other ports should be capped then.

Anyone have a part number for the pilot jet?

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Originally Posted by Kb96gt

JK3 - Check your cable dude. Make sure there's no kinks or bends. Check that it's tightly screwed on both ends and squirt some bicycle cable lube in it while you're there.

I replaced my speedo with a plain MPH unit. $40 and works perfect. I used a 2240:60 ratio, seems right on.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/...4c2abe72_z.jpg

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Kevin - Have you tested the speedo for accuracy? If so how'd it turn out?

Got my bike yesterday! Love it! I was surprised at how comfortable it is. I was only able to put 15 miles on her so far. Runs great. The only issue I'm having is that no matter what I do it will not start up if I'm in first gear. Dealer said it's supposed to be like that but that doesn't sound right to me.

pete checking into that for you

Thanks gardo,
I sent Al a message and he sent one back real quick with some suggestions that I'm gonna have to wait till tomorrow to try out.
It's awesome having someone give ane a straight foward response instead of the dealer saying "that's how tha heist is made"
I'll let ya guys know how it turns out tomorrow. And I'm starting to order little custom things too... Valve caps, hand grips, license bolts decals ect. Pics when I get em!

Got some good riding in yesterday with my brother now at we picked his bike back up on Friday.

Wife got me the milled CCW gas cap for fathers day, how awesome of her!

:thumbsup:took it out again today! put about 125 miles on it. drove the entire time with the tank cap loose so it could breathe and rode great the entire time. expecting my vented cap tomorrow or tuesday so i can ride without having to worry about gas leaking out. also going to order the magnetic drain plug, grips, mirrors, and other misc. stuff tonight. also was wondering, is anyone running a solo saddlebag on one of these? if so please post some pics. i have been pondering the idea but not sure of how it would look with the rest of the bike. unless there is another thing i can look in to for storage of simple things such as registration, insurance cards, etc. as i ride (aside from my pockets, because they can only fit so much stuff.)

MK2 I picked up the solo bag but it didnt fit do to the rear marker light. I pwill be replacing the stock blinkers and relocating them in a week or two. will try the bag then and post some pics

Pictures of the bike, picked it up this weekend. Got it home and the battery was totally dead. Got it charged up tonight and running. Already took off kickstand kill switch and few reflectors. Does anybody know what exactly can be removed in terms of epa and random tubes that are hanging around the engine?

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Pereill, congrats on the bike and gettin her home. a few things can come off. the CA rebrether and junk but you will need a blockoff plate to cover the hole. I have pics but they are on another computer right now.

Hey guys,,,

I have been following this thread for a good while now and I am very pleased with the way things are looking for this bike... I live just outside of Nashville TN have been in the Military for 18 years now... I have already been down to my local dealer in Nashville to talk with them about "Tha Heist" and even got to give the bike a good once over... I must say that I am very pleased with everything that he has told me and has been very forthcoming and honest with answers to my questions... I am currently trying to talk my HH6 ( HouseHold6 aka Military for Wife ) into letting me purchase one and might be able to within the next couple of weeks...

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Originally Posted by mk2gtirob

unless there is another thing i can look in to for storage of simple things such as registration, insurance cards, etc. as i ride (aside from my pockets, because they can only fit so much stuff.)

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MK2,,,

To help answer your question about a way to carry your registration,,, insurance,,, etc. you might want to look into a stash tube... It's a old school way of carrying that stuff and looks really great on a bobber... Here's a link to one : http://www.biltwellinc.com/stashtubes.php ... I hope that helps out :thumbsup:


Gardo,,,

Keep up the good work and it's been a pleasure following all that you have done to yours and the vids you have are great ( plus I have shown them to my HH6 which has helped in my convincing her I need to pick one up )... Thank You

WK2

WK2 - Welcome to the madness and thanks, biggest seller to the HH6 are two price points, first being cost and the second is gas savings. I get anywhere from 70 - 80 mpg depending on my riding. I tend to ride aggressively :naughty:
I have more vids on the way :thumbsup:

Also I' like to thank you for your service to the U.S

Good luck on your purchase :riding:

Gardo,,,

Thank You for the Welcome and also Thank You for your Support :icon10: :thumbsup:

I brought a brochure home from the dealer and laid it all out on the table for her including the CCW webby and your Vids... I also showed her the saving in gas ( as opposed to my 2006 Hummer H3 ) seeing how I only live 7 miles from work ... She said she would have to think it over for the next few weeks... I will send the kids down to my parents,,, take her out to a nice dinner and just somehow end the journey at the Dealership to let her look it over and ask some of her own questions...

Thank You once again :icon10:

WK2

Sounds like you've got a solid plan there WK2, best of luck to you!

Some pics after I gave my bike a good scrubbin' yesterday:

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We are such lil girls about our bikes :lol8:

Hey my name is gene and live in nc I have been looking at this bike for about 3 weeks and I think I am going to buy one . I can't find a dealer around me that has one for me to go look. Is there any one in nc that has one. I can looks mybe ride.