How to lose your driving license...

[euphonius]

Congrats, Felix. Nice to see a happy ending.

cheers

[ChinaV]

It's either fake or a photoshop trick

Congrats dude, glad you're legal again.

Cheers!
ChinaV

[jape]

Yeah, thats a happy ending in his right hand ... !!!

What do you think folks, should I ban this member as a poor example to others or shall we give him another chance?

[euphonius]

It's either fake or a photoshop trick

I say photoshop. Felix would never grab his crotch like that.

[ChinaV]

It's what he was grabbing that required photoshop.

Cheers!
ChinaV

[Brian]

Could someone clarify the measuring they take for alcohol? The original poster mentioned .2, but I'm familiar with the US having BAC (blood alcohol content). Most states have a limit of .08 with .02 like less than a beer. Is the .2 measurement strict and is it like this all over China?

thanks

[jape]

We could do with a good source for this?
Probably best go with the lowest meanwhile!
the confusion is between BLOOD alcohol content and BREATH alcohol content both sometimes called BAC

0.08
http://www.breathalyser.org/BAC_Limit.html
some sources say as low as
0.02
http://www.drinkdriving.org/worldwid...ing_limits.php
http://www.rhinocarhire.com/Drive-Sm...y-Country.aspx
some say
0.03
http://www.driveandstayalive.com/art...BAC-limits.htm
citation: Shanghai Star 2003

[slabo]

Could someone clarify the measuring they take for alcohol? The original poster mentioned .2, but I'm familiar with the US having BAC (blood alcohol content). Most states have a limit of .08 with .02 like less than a beer. Is the .2 measurement strict and is it like this all over China?

thanks

yup, ZERO tollerance in China. Like you saw in Felix's post, he wasn't even close to drunk, yet lost his license. Yes, they are usually that strict all over China, except for less developed areas. General rule, if they're checking, they're serious!

[felix]

Yeah i don't actually know what system they use for reference, so i don't know what this 0.2 represents, or therefore how much you can drink before being the limit. I would think that's very low though, since apparently being hungover is still too much.

[euphonius]

OK, it's not pretty and the information is confusing, but here's a google translation of a list of ascending BAC levels and associated punishments from the website of a Beijing law firm, with the Chinese original appended below.

It's clear that the first three categories are all based on blood alcohol content (not breath alcohol content) as measured in milligrams per 100 milliliters of blood, but presumably the blood alcohol content can be determined with a breathalyzer. I'm not sure how these figures translate into percentage figures (i.e., 0.2% or 0.02%), since the ratio measures two different units -- mass and volume. (Yes, I studied chemistry and physics in high school, but perhaps I've had enough tipple over the years that I can't remember how to reconcile this, so I'll "take the fifth". )

It looks like Felix got hit with the lightest penalty, based not on "drunk driving" but merely "driving after drinking". Interesting that this writeup does not discuss the requirement of taking classroom education and a test prior to receiving the license back.

It should not be hard to find this information in the motor vehicle code. Any of you recent test-takers have this info at your fingertips?

er, cheers!

Penalties for drunk driving standard
1, driving a motor vehicle after drinking alcohol (blood alcohol content of 20mg/100ml <with> more 80mg/100ml <without>) the following at the 500 yuan fine, note 6 points, driver's license withheld 1 to 3 months;

2, drunken driving in the (blood alcohol content of 80mg/100ml more 130mg/100ml < with > below) impose 8 to 10 days detention , recorded 12 points, temporarily driving 5 months, and impose a 1,800 yuan fine ;

3, drunken driving in the (blood alcohol 130mg/100ml above) impose a 13 to 15 days detention, withheld driver's license 6 months and impose a 1,800 yuan fine, remember 12 points;

4, operating motor vehicle after drinking, driving license withheld 3 months, and impose a 500 yuan fine, note 6 points;
　
5, operation of motor vehicle driving drunk at 13 to 15 days detention, withheld driver's license 6 months and impose a 2,000 yuan fine, remember 12 points;
　
6, the year due to drunk driving to be punished 2 times more than his license.

7, according to "apply for and use of motor vehicle driver's license requirements" (2006 on 12 May 20 atRepublic of China Ministry of Public Order No. 91 issued number , according to2009 on 12 April 7 days"Ministry of Public Security on the changes < to apply for driving license and use of the provisions of > the decision "amended ) Annex III to the first paragraph (b) provides that, after drinking or drunken driving, a record 12 points; under " to apply for driving license and use of the provisions of "fifty-eighth Article, the provisions shall 2010 on 4 April 1 date Implementation.

酒后驾车处罚标准
１、饮酒后驾驶机动车的（血液中酒精含量20mg/100ml〈含〉以上80mg/100ml〈不含〉）以下 处500元罚款，记6分，驾照暂扣1至3个月；
　２、醉酒后驾驶机动车的（血液中酒精含量80mg/100ml以上130mg/100ml<含>以下的）处以8至10日拘留, 记12分，暂扣驾照5个月，并处1800元罚款；
　 ３、醉酒后驾驶机动车的（血液中酒精含量130mg/100ml以上的）处以13至15日拘留，暂扣驾照6个月，并处1800元罚款，记12分；
　 ４、饮酒后驾驶营运机动车的暂扣驾照3个月，并处500元罚款，记6分；
　 ５、醉酒后驾驶营运机动车的处13至15日拘留，暂扣驾照6个月，并处2000元罚款，记12 分；
　 ６、一年内因醉酒驾车被处罚2次以上的吊销驾照。
７、根据《机动车驾驶证申领和使用规定》(2006年12月20日中华人民共和国公安部令第91号发布,根 据2009年12月7日《公安部关于修改<机动车驾驶证申领和使用规定>的决定》修正)附件三第一条第（二 ）项规定，饮酒后或者醉酒后驾驶机动车，一次记12分；根据《机动车驾驶证申领和使用规定》第五十八条规定 ，本规定自2010年4月1日起施行。

link to the original Chinese