Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information

[Gardo]

Barnone does the bike have any of the following;
the NHTSA label
EPA Noise Emissions label
EPA Exhaust Emissions label

[Aboshi]

Something like happened to one of my brothers 5 years ago when buying a roketa "street legal" dirt bike. Turns out that was far from the truth, he had to do a charge back and told the Co. to come pick up the bike and they said just keep it because it wasn't worth their time or $ to ship it back to themselves... point is they screwed him over with the MSO and said it was legit to get registered and when he tired they said no way in hell they were going to let him on the street with it... So he wound up using it as a stunt bike for some shows. This is why I never bought a chines bike myself, but this one looks so damn cool and with an engine displacement this small I know it would stop me from acting like a maniac.

On a side note:
I can say though that these motors with the stock sprockets will have 0 balls and barely push 50-60ish mph with a 145 lb. rider on it. I just got back from Dominican Republic and I had rented a few bikes to get around on, the last bike I had got was one of the chinese CMS 200cc ENDURO and it looks to be the same exact motor in the bobber. This thing was much slower then a yz125 and with the stock sprocket 1st gear would top out at 5 mph if that... So I hope you can get the MSO stuff sorted out because if you do I have quit a few plans for these to hopefully get just a little bit more power out of them and mess around with the sprockets to find a nice balance between low and mid range =) Other then that these motors aren't bad at all and should last quite a long time if treated good.

[Gardo]

ok i just spoke with the scooterdepot and they gave me the location of the plate that has all of that information on the Bike. According to the MVC of NJ that and the "Propper" MSO makes it a legit street bike.
SD stated that it was on the right side riveted to the frame

[jape]

Well thye are talking on the phone to you so it may just be ignorance and stupidity rather than outright fraud.
Tell them to fedex the papers overnight so they arrive before the crate, or to use a bonded courier delivery service so the driver can carry the papers with him.

[Aboshi]

banone:

Can you tell me if there is a cap on the bottom right side of the motor where there should be a spindle for a kick start. I think these motors are the clones of the 1968-69 honda's. I know their patent was up a while ago and then everyone started to clone it out. It would be really nice if we could add a kick start to these motos =)

[barnone]

ok i just spoke with the scooterdepot and they gave me the location of the plate that has all of that information on the Bike. According to the MVC of NJ that and the "Propper" MSO makes it a legit street bike.
SD stated that it was on the right side riveted to the frame

I read those plates the other day and they say that the bike meets the requirements of EPA and DOT ..... so that's good but I still need the right MSO and bill of sale.
Latest email I received from the vendor is below. When I get the papers and they appear to be right I will head over to the tag office and see if I can register the bike. Will let you know what happens.


Good news! I just got back from lunch and checked the mailbox, it arrived today. I will mail it out today priority, should arrive in 2 days.

Thanks,
Chad

[barnone]

banone:

Can you tell me if there is a cap on the bottom right side of the motor where there should be a spindle for a kick start. I think these motors are the clones of the 1968-69 honda's. I know their patent was up a while ago and then everyone started to clone it out. It would be really nice if we could add a kick start to these motos =)

There is no cap where the kick starter shaft would come out of the engine. The cover is one piece. I guess you could get a cover with the hole in it and fit a kick starter but the muffler as is would be in the way of the kick starter pedal.

[barnone]

Barnone does the bike have any of the following;
the NHTSA label
EPA Noise Emissions label
EPA Exhaust Emissions label

There are two metal labels pop riveted on the left side down tube with the proper EPA/DOT information. I can't find any of the EPA stamping on the muffler but will check again tomorrow. No way that muffler could have passed Noise Emissions tests. I stuck a baffle up the can to tone her down a bit,

[ChinaV]

I guess you could get a cover with the hole in it and fit a kick starter...

Maybe, but I thought the same about my old QingQi and found it also required a new clutch basket. The stock one did not have the gears to engage the kickstart, it might be the same with this engine, but I'm not sure.

Cheers!
ChinaV

[Aboshi]

barnone:

Thanx for the pics =)

ChinaV:

Yeah it would need the clutch basket, gears and recoil spring, along with the spline, and new cover because its not just a cap from what barnone has shown. but thats only if it wasn't included from factory that we know of. We would need to pull that cover and see whats underneath sadly. I believe this is the same motor that they are using for tha heist from Cleveland Motor Werks, or pretty close to it, the only difference it looks like is the casing on the right side with the kickstart. If barnone or Gardo are able to get their bikes regged I'll wind up grabbing a few of these and stripping one down completely to see what can be done. I know right off the bat they will need new exhaust, re jetting, new sprockets. then maybe down the line a small bore if I feel these motors are up to snuff, but that would come in the summer time where there are no waves as a small side project =)

*edit*
I am 99% sure this is the same exact motor Cleveland Motor Werks is using. You can tell from the case cover. Here's to hoping the dong fang still has all the necessary parts to attach the kick start and just replacing the case cover, or the cover and a spline =)