ChinaV's new Yingang YG250NF (YG250-6)

[culcune]

Someone on chinariders was asking about massimo bikes and posted a link to the dirt bike he was interested in. http://massimomotor.com/productview....%20Bike&pid=49

[soberpete]

Only powerful above 5000 rpm? Sounds like a jetting or needle height issue to me, or find the original carb that came with the Honda and put that on!

Pete, can I do a review of the bike when you get it too?

Yes, Lewis, you can. I trust you, but I'm gonna need to use your Raptor for the duration of time that you have my bike.

[MJH]

The original carb is vintage....over a decade, good luck.

[soberpete]

Dear Forum viewers,
I now have more than enough money to buy the YG250-6, however, since China's switch of standards from EURO2 to EURO3 and Yin gang's consequential alteration of the bike's engine from carburetor to fuel injection, I've been thinking more and more about the Yamaha YBR250.
When I was first informed of the big change and my hopes of getting a registrable YG for 15,000 I was really heartbroken but I had to make a decision. My first thought was to reconsider the YBR after some good advice was given to me by a person I look up to.

Consider the following facts:
1. After the YG becomes fuel injected it's going to cost at least 17,000 and as dewsnap said, it is dangerously close to YBR at 23,000rmb.
2. Yamaha made the YBR250 fuel injected from the moment they designed it (I assume anyway). Yin gang have changed the design of their already reverse engineered carburetor engine to be fuel injected and I couldn't trust that as much as I could trust an original Yamaha design.
3. The YG is expected to be released in May but I wouldn't be surprised if that date was delayed. I want my new bike sooner than that.
4. The YG is beautiful. I think it's much better looking than the YBR but still, it is Chinese made and will most likely have more problems than the YBR and I've recently noticed a new kind of 'good look' from the YBR.
5. The YBR should be quality through and through: Good welds, pieces that fit properly and bolts and nuts that are fastened correctly before it left the factory. I wouldn't expect that from a Chinese make. The YBR should last a long time without many problems, if any, as long as I treat it well.
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ChinaV; I hope that you don't see this as a dig on you or your YG250-6. I really appreciate your review and all of your advice about the bike.

Pete

P.s. The YBR is (obviously) Japanese. Would CMC have some kind of problem with me doing a review on a YBR?

[soberpete]

Dear Forum viewers,

P.s. The YBR is (obviously) Japanese. Would CMC have some kind of problem with me doing a review on a YBR?

It's not a Chinese made bike so that was a stupid question. Of course they wouldn't like that. What I meant to ask is: If I were to take a long, interesting ride (like Tokyokid did through Tibet) and post a big review of it on here then would that be ok with CMC?

[jape]

MCM? Of course you can review anything here! its all relevant for comparison if nothing else. BUT ZMC88 wrote this: You can see that the YBR 250 takes prominent position on Jianshe's website. They even make a 劲龙ⅡJYM250, which has a different 220cc engine, they are next to each other on the site, even with Chinese style photoshopped publicity shots and graphics! The YBR250 is certainly made in lots of different factories all over the world, probably China, India, Brazil, Japan and Portugal to name a few.

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...e-sense-to-buy so read the whole thread and decide for yourself.

[ZMC888]

Yamaha YBR250 doesn't make sense to buy

I'm quoting myself here!

Mostly my thoughts for Pete........

That was the name of the thread, and at that time (summer 2009) it made sense. However since then I have revised my opinion, I still don't believe I was wrong but times have changed....

At that time the DD250G-2 was easily registered and cost only 10,000 RMB. Now this bike seems less available and more expensive, I doubt it can be registered due to emissions. Also we know that most of the street style Regal Raptors will be a headache to own for the first few months with some cheap components and a junk exhaust system with probable bad assembly.

The Yinggang is certainly a pretty bike but I've been told that the bike isn't available in Shandong, plus the emission worries means that there might be some serious issues registering the bike, and spending 15,000 on a bike that possibly cannot ever be plated, not the best idea.

From what I can gather Pete wants to live in China long term and do some road mileage. I don't know for sure but over a five year period I really think that at the moment a YBR250 is about the most logical choice for a road bike in China. Although a fairly limited choice at the moment.

[humanbeing]

... even make a 劲龙ⅡJYM250, which has a different 220cc engine...

This is just a "official" bored SR150 http://www.zclub.com.tw/discuz/thread-76882-1-1.html

[euphonius]

From what I can gather Pete wants to live in China long term and do some road mileage. I don't know for sure but over a five year period I really think that at the moment a YBR250 is about the most logical choice for a road bike in China. Although a fairly limited choice at the moment.

The Jialing JH600 is another strong choice, though you'll pay another 7k rmb for the bigger bike. Especially good for distance touring and pillioning. Most of the production goes to military and police departments, but there are a lot of civilians out there on the JH600 and it's got a decent track record.

It's China3 compliant and about 32k RMB. Just sayin'...

[ZMC888]

The Jialing JH600 is another strong choice

YBR250 is about the most logical choice for a road bike in China

Pure road I mean, not road/trail.

Although 32K? That's less than I thought, I thought they'd gone up to 35K? Now for the 17 inch wheels, road tires and the shorter travel suspension!