Yeah I actually miss all the dumb crap that came out of portzers mouth, was funny as hell,he was so dumb and annoying, cant take things personaly, specialy from people on line, but there are still great people on that site who really try to help people and it is still a good place to go,specialy if u have a Lifan or Roketa, plus I learned that were all one and the same, you may not know it, but all of us china riderz are doing a commendable thing, changing the way people look at transportaition, helping the motorcycle market, and helping the Earth, if everybody had a motorcycle or scooter(specially the usa) we would be in a much better world O and btw Culcune