Qingqi QM200GY-BA Super Motard

[ChinaV]

I have read mostly good reports in some forums about it, but also some horror stories about broken third gear, broken sprocket screws and loose spokes. Any of you have any experience about those subjects?:

I just returned from a 5000 kilometer trip on the the QM200GY DualSport version. Overall, a pretty reliable machine with a couple minor problems . #1 The spokes and the rear sprocket must be checked every 1000 kilometers. If the spokes get loose, you may end up sheering the bolts off the rear sprocket. I had to purchase an entire rear wheel assembly. Should have checked spoke tension more often. #2 The stator failed during the trip and would not put out enough electricity to charge the battery. I'm going to try and find a Suzuki DR200 OEM Stator to replace the original. Other than that, a great little machine!

Cheers
ChinaV

[forchetto]

#1 The spokes and the rear sprocket must be checked every 1000 kilometers. If the spokes get loose, you may end up sheering the bolts off the rear sprocket. I had to purchase an entire rear wheel assembly. Should have checked spoke tension more often. #2 The stator failed during the trip and would not put out enough electricity to charge the battery. I'm going to try and find a Suzuki DR200 OEM Stator to replace the original. Other than that, a great little machine!

Two posts in the same thread by different folks that mention loose spokes and sprocket bolt failure... This is too much of a coincidence.
I have found one or two spokes loose, but was happy to see Qingqi using bent-over tab washers for security of the sprocket bolts. Of course this is no good if the steel is of poor quality.
I will be changing them for some high tensile steel items, grade 10.9 or better. (Hardware comes in grades according to its material and tensile strengh. The grades are: 4.6, 4.8, 5.8, 8.8, 9.8, 10.9, and 12.9. Ordinary stuff like mudguards and the like usually have the 5.8 grade, whilst suspension and transmission items should have 8.8 or better). Good concise guide about bolts here: http://www.qldcorvetteclub.com.au/te...talk/bolts.htm

Thanks for the warning on that.

We need 6x M8x30 mm High-tensile bolts, but can re-use the security tab washers:





We all know that turning on lights, etc, puts extra load on the engine, but most bike engines have sufficient torque at idle and don't even notice this. The Qingqi is peculiar in that switching on the headlight at idle makes the engine slow down by some 200-300 revs...this could have something to do with the poor stator, as you say.
Another clue is that the regulator (just in front of the petrol tank on the right) runs very hot, even though it is in a superb place to receive plenty of cooling air. Just put your hand in the fins after a run.
Any heat in a regulator device is a loss and the Qingqi one is running at a poor level of efficiency.

If you do find a DR200 stator, could you give us the part number?. This is to be able to walk into the Suzuki dealer, with head held high and ask for the correct item straight away. If not, the question will be: What bike, year, etc is it for?. When you answer "qingqi" they either fall about laughing, or their expression goes blank.

[MotoDrunken]

Two posts in the same thread by different folks that mention loose spokes and sprocket bolt failure... This is too much of a coincidence.
I have found one or two spokes loose, but was happy to see Qingqi using bent-over tab washers for security of the sprocket bolts. Of course this is no good if the steel is of poor quality.
I will be changing them for some high tensile steel items, grade 10.6 or better.
Thanks for the warning on that.

We all know that turning on lights, etc, puts extra load on the engine, but most bike engines have sufficient torque at idle and don't even notice this. The Qingqi is peculiar in that switching on the headlight at idle makes the engine slow down by some 200-300 revs...this could have something to do with the poor stator, as you say.
Another clue is that the regulator (just in front of the petrol tank on the right) runs very hot, even though it is in a superb place to receive plenty of cooling air. Just put your hand in the fins after a run.
Any heat in a regulator device is a loss and the Qingqi one is running at a poor level of efficiency.

If you do find a DR200 stator, could you give us the part number?. This is to be able to walk into the Suzuki dealer, with head held high and ask for the correct item straight away. If not, the question will be: What bike, year, etc is it for?. When you answer "qingqi" they either fall about laughing, or their expression goes blank.

You´re really right. We should be aware of those potential problems in order to get ahead of them, just in case. We must help each other in regards of the sources for must reliable parts. If Suzuki parts (especially the electrical ones) could be interchangeable with our current rides, it could give us some sort of "security blanket" to lay upon. And you´re right again: we must know what we`re looking for in Big S dealers, even if it`s just to expedite things up. I hope we don`t get any horror stories to comment, but if bad things happen, we better publish them immediately. "La unión hace la fuerza"

[posadajulian]

You´re really right. We should be aware of those potential problems in order to get ahead of them, just in case. We must help each other in regards of the sources for must reliable parts. If Suzuki parts (especially the electrical ones) could be interchangeable with our current rides, it could give us some sort of "security blanket" to lay upon. And you´re right again: we must know what we`re looking for in Big S dealers, even if it`s just to expedite things up. I hope we don`t get any horror stories to comment, but if bad things happen, we better publish them immediately. "La unión hace la fuerza"

Now you mention it... Do we have a list of the compatible Suzuki parts??

[MotoDrunken]

Now you mention it... Do we have a list of the compatible Suzuki parts??

Well, nothing official, Brother. Seems that carburetor, stator, switch gear, spark plug, oil filter, shift lever, front sprocket, and probably the piston, camshaft and related paraphernalia should work, as well as the gears inside the crankcase, from what I´ve heard. But as Carl told us before, maybe only by direct comparison we`ll be sure of that... and that involves always the risk of failure (trial and error).
I have one question for you: Do you live in the high lands of Colombia (as in Bogotá)? and if that`s the case, how does the bike behave at altitudes higher than 1000 m? Have you had the experience? Tegucigalpa is only at about 1100m above sea level, but chances are I could end up riding it as high as 2000 m. Nothing to do with the altitudes at what you can ride in your country, but... just curious. "Saludos hermano, que estés bien"

[posadajulian]

Well, nothing official, Brother. Seems that carburetor, stator, switch gear, spark plug, oil filter, shift lever, front sprocket, and probably the piston, camshaft and related paraphernalia should work, as well as the gears inside the crankcase, from what I´ve heard. But as Carl told us before, maybe only by direct comparison we`ll be sure of that... and that involves always the risk of failure (trial and error).
I have one question for you: Do you live in the high lands of Colombia (as in Bogotá)? and if that`s the case, how does the bike behave at altitudes higher than 1000 m? Have you had the experience? Tegucigalpa is only at about 1100m above sea level, but chances are I could end up riding it as high as 2000 m. Nothing to do with the altitudes at what you can ride in your country, but... just curious. "Saludos hermano, que estés bien"

Hmm then we probably should start a thread or something regarding some tests on this compatibility.

About your question, i Live in medellin, its about 1500m above sea here, and i can tell you the bike behaves incredibly, i still havent got the bike for myself, but a friend of mine has it and he says it can climb on roads with some serious inclination at over 80 kmh (50 mph) , and he has gone arround 120 kmh (75 mph) on flat roads, so... the bike rocks

Que estes muy bien tu tambien =)

[rafaelmotard]

Sundown STX Motard 200cc
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[Misfit]

hi guys, i just recently bought a QingQi supermotard 200cc. Its one of the first 3 imported to south-africa and all i can say about this bike is that its simply just awsome!!!Its realy the best bike i've seen from Qingqi so far and also thier mamba 200cc is quite cool but i've tried both and the motard hails supreme.although the exaust sound kind of too soft and girly for my licking is there anythning i can do like to drill holes in my baffle or something too get a better sound cuz one of my pals did it with his viper and it pulls much better and sounds awsome??please help!I'll have some pics up in a while of my motard and the mamba

[CrazyCarl]

Misfit,

Wanna drill holes in your pipe? Forchetto has it covered, complete with instructions!

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321

Happy Farkling,
CC

[posadajulian]

Hey people, hey forchetto...

FINALLY GOT IT, THE QM200 ROCKS, LOOKS GREAT, GREAT POWER (HERE THEY HAVE 18 HP), EASY TO HANDLE, ETC ETC ETC, CHANGED THE TIRES FOR A COUPLE OF PIRELLI SPORT DEMON, AND I LOVE IT, THANK YOU ALL, THANK YOU THANK YOU.