Quote Originally Posted by euphonius View Post
I have no first-hand evidence, but it's said that there are rings of thieves here in Shanghai who target valuable bikes in the field, then follow the rider to find out where the bike lives. then they can plot their strategy for nicking it. it's also said that some of these thieves, operating out of scooterville in Jiaoji Lu, will steal bikes to order.[...]
Yea, makes me think I should take the subway next time I go there...

More about the place:

5 years ago:
I saw a blue and white pick up loaded with scooters driving on Xin cun towards Jiao ji.
Cause sitting on an illegal ride at the time, I took off & didn't see them unloading the payload, so they maybe were just passing by...

2 years ago:
A friend of mine found his scooter there the day after it disappeared while "secured" front of a bar, he knew where to look...
But once there in front of the thing, he could say nothing, cause if he's big, he's just one person while there was many people selling his scooter.

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Quote Originally Posted by Robeta View Post
[...]If you overcome your assailent and beat him up because he drew a knife or other kind of weapon, and you win this fight , then what happens if the police are involved ? is it self defence if you beat the crap out of a would be theif, an interesting thought
Hmmm, u don't want to murder (or cripple) some1 in China, self-defence surely doesn't apply, especially to u foreigner, unless u're rich and willing to share.
U also don't want to try to disarm him, and fail.
And in the case u're a martial arts instructor and can disarm anyone in a blink, do u think they just saw u for the 1st time when they decided to introduce themselves? Do u think they'll respect your in-the-blink-of-an-eye move and that they'll never come back to u with further comments about how arrogant it was from u to not let them try your bike.

Seriously, they show a blade cause they want my bike, I show a smile and I give the bike.

I love my bike, but it's just metal & plastic nicely put together.

Still, chapeau bas to graphs111 for the Jackie Chan move, but I'd keep those risky moves for when they want to take me and not just the bike.

Peace.