JH600 stalling

[Lao Jia Hou]

There was another thread started that claimed the "fix" was to disconnect the camshaft sensor.

Those following this thread might recall that this "fix" was what JL recommended to me, last month, for my two-wheeled JH600. I refused to accept this ridiculous "fix."

One thing I have not posted before, was that when my three-wheeled JH-600B began its serious stalling issues (last year), the Beijing Service Center "fixed" it by disconnecting this camshaft position sensor. At that time, the Service Center told me that it had replaced a sensor, but I later discovered that was not true - all it had done was disconnect the sensor. That was one of the many times I had been lied to.

Anyways, it never eliminated the stalling problem, it only reduced its severity. Over time (and a couple thousand more kms), the serious stalling issue on my JH-600B returned, complete with the disconnected camshaft position sensor. Hence, this is definitely NOT a repair.

Because of my experience with the three-wheeled "disconnect the sensor" fix, I refused to accept JL's identical solution with my two-wheeled JH600, recently proposed by CQ and BJ.

Frankly, I think us JH600 owners have become so desensitized & frustrated by Jialing, that we are kinda hoping for a simple, "silver bullet" fix. In essence, we are grabbing at straws.

If Jialing had made the Ford Pinto, it would probably be suggesting we "fix" the problem by zip-tying fluffy pillows on our rear bumper.

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My next comment concerning the JH600 - I agree, it is a great bike when it is running properly. The problem is ... it isn't running properly. And it appears that JL won't help us have our bikes running properly.

JL has obviously known for a very long time that there was a serious stalling problem, and that is why it changed the "old" 2010 models into the "new" 2011 models.

To now claim that warranty will not cover the assumed "fix" of replacing the ECU with the 3.0 version, etc, is completely ridiculous and FULLY demonstrates that JL is just trying to screw us. They were selling these "old" bikes in late 2010, fully aware that they were faulty. It is obvious that JL was lying to us, time and again, as a delay tactic to get us out of our warranty periods.

As for the argument that it is a relatively low cost ... well, in the four wheeled world back home, one of my cars is an expensive exotic. Repairing that car is prohibitively expensive, when compared to a Honda car I also own/use. Simply because the Honda is much less expensive to repair doesn't in any way excuse Honda from being responsible for faulty manufacturing. My argument is that Jialing is not excused from its responsibility of manufacturing a faulty (and, frankly, UNSAFE) motorcycle because its parts are comparatively cheap.

And, yes, I have had lots of fun on each of my JH600s when they were running properly. Similarly, I am sure lots of people enjoyed Ford Pintos before being tragically converted into crispy critters.

I don't want to be a bug on some bus grill because my JH600 stalled at a bad time.

Come on JL, quit the BS and step up to the plate. IF the 3.0 ECU does indeed "fix" the stalling problem, and IF the 3.0 ECU can be accessed and reflashed, then show us what kind of company you are. If you really want to be one of the big players in the market, then give up this ridiculous proprietary attitude, and open up the ECU to everyone. All the other big boys do it. Don't be afraid. We won't hurt you.

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Finally, JL's "technicians" canceled the Beijing meeting this last weekend - they were probably too shy to meet more foreigners after their Shanghai meeting.

Well, there are still the forthcoming motorcycle shows where us JH600 owners can stage our own "display" for both Chinese & foreign observers. The advantage we have is ... we speak English, and French, and German, and Spanish, and Portuguese, and so on. No need for filtered translations with prospective buyers.