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#1291 Re: CCW tha Heist
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03-12-2012, 11:56 AM
You can order a brand new Heist from Tom Weaver at Weaver Rides http://weaverrides3.weebly.com/ customized any way you want. Hot rod motor work, exhaust, handlebars, mid-controls, color schemes, just about anything. The Weave is the god of all things custom Heist and Misfit. You tell him what you want, he can do it.
As long as you gots da scratch! As with anything, man, you gotta pay to play.
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#1292 Re: CCW tha HeistGardo northern NJ/NYC
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#1293 Re: CCW tha Heist
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03-14-2012, 10:37 PM
Just got these from Tom Weaver today, showing placement for his Heist mid controls. Tom is 5' 8" tall, with a 30" inseam, and the Heist he is pictured on is equipped with stock handlebars. If you're more inclined toward a standard riding position than the current obsession most guys have with forward controls, these mids are just your ticket.
Note, however, that they cannot be moved any farther back or further forward due to placement of the Heist's transmission, and you'll need a custom fabbed exhaust, too.
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#1294 Re: CCW tha Heist
03-16-2012, 01:19 AM
Tom Weaver is now offering a valve adjustment tool set - check it out on his Weaver Rides blog page (pics also):
http://weaverrides3.weebly.com/blog.html
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#1295 Re: CCW tha Heist
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03-16-2012, 07:30 AM
Hi guys!
Stu from South Africa here. I've been thinking about getting my first bike for a little while now and came across an old aquaintence who was building a Triumph Bobber.....One thing led to another and in my search of Bobbers I came across the Heist. I'm fairly sold on the thing. I want to go have a look at some local ones next weekend.
For a first bike I figure I need something slowish and cheap....and the Heist beats the hell out of anything else ive seen for the pirce!! Plus I can finance a bit of it, as I dont have the cash money all in one place.
Just some questions:
The guys that have put some decent mileage on em....any problems? Common things to give trouble?
Are parts for these engines readily available? Are there any "generic" sort of parts or will I have to order parts from the USA dealers anytime something goes wrong?
Have any of you guys ridden the Heist at altitude? Johannesburg is at 5500-5700 ft above sea level, so just wondering how the little motor will pull the bike around up here.
I really like the look of the thing, and I'm a little intimidated by starting on a 650 or something like that so it seems perfect. Alright "first bike"?
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#1296 Re: CCW tha HeistGardo northern NJ/NYC
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#1297 Re: CCW tha Heist
03-16-2012, 02:08 PM
Welcome Stu! As for milage, the guy that started this thread rode his Heist to Daytona, FL for Bike Week - 1200 miles from home, and he already put over 8,000 miles on his Heist before he left. Your questions can be answered a multitude of ways. There's the ccw tha riders Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ccwthariders/
Also check out our fansite:
http://www.ccwthariders.com/
We also have a CCW riders map on the homepage of the site. There are 7 other SA riders on it as well as they being members of the FB group. There's a form to fill out to get yourself placed on the map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0...ource=embed%22
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#1298 Re: CCW tha Heist
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03-16-2012, 06:58 PM
Remember that even though Tha Heist is a very lightweight machine and its engine is dead reliable, that engine is still only of 230cc displacement, and with a 2 valve head and pushrod actuation. This means sloooooow! But we don't buy a Heist for speed, we buy one for style. So you'll be slow but look good doing it, at least.
The carburetor can be correctly jetted for your elevation--I live in Denver, Colorado, USA, which is also one mile above sea level, and my carbed small displacement thumpers run just great when dialed in right. But you've got to be spot-on with the jetting!!
If you cough up the scratch for Tom Weaver's http://weaverrides3.weebly.com/ hot rod parts, you'll easily nudge double the stock hp and torque.
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#1299 Re: CCW tha Heist
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03-16-2012, 08:07 PM
Thanks guys.
Checked out the Facebook group....that scared me a little. So many issues seem to be popping up. If I had a Weaver shop near by I wouldn't be too stressed but I have absolutely no idea how the local SA resellers are. Service in general in SA is pretty bad a lot of the time.
Slightly worried.
I sent Jaco on the FB group a message asking him some questions so we'll see how his experience has been
Can you seriously double the power out of these things? What parts? Shipping to SA is always a beast though :(
I really like the look of it, and it'll be my very first bike so im not looking to go fast....hell i havent even been on a bicycle in like 10years probably.I need to relearn all this stuff.
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#1300 Re: CCW tha Heist
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03-16-2012, 09:54 PM
This is what the Weave does for Heists and Misfits:
1) Decks, ports, and polishes the head
2) Ports the carburetor, and jets for your elevation
3) Exhaust
4) Gearing
Products he currently has in development:
1) 300cc big bore kit
2) High lift camshaft
Banke Performance http://www.bankeperformance.com/flattrack/rims.html here in the States makes ultra lightweight wheels that are direct bolt-on conversions for Tha Heist and Misfit, in stock sizes. Each wheel has a custom machined aluminum hub, alloy rim, lightweight 2mm inner tube, and lightweight tapered stainless spokes and nipples. In the case of Tha Heist James Banke will also spoon on a set of Pirelli Night Dragon tires, which are currently the lightest and stickiest cruiser segment tires available in the world.
The wheel/tire sets alone will set you back 3000USD, not including shipping to South Afi.
You can also spend up to about 2000USD getting all the Weaver Rides hot rod parts and G and D exhaust http://ganddist.com/heist-performance-exhaust-shor/, again not including shipping to South Afi.
Motorcycling is not an inexpensive hobby. Custom motorcycling is far, far more expensive than that! Expect to be raped. Repeatedly.
A note about CCW quality control!
1) CCW's motors are Lifan counterbalanced clones of the old Honda CRF230 motor. Despite the fact they are a Chinese company, Lifan makes very good motors because they simply copy small displacement Japanese motors that are extremely reliable to begin with.
2) CCW motos are built in Communist China--there's no way around those two terrible words: Communist, and China. China bikes require much more attention to maintenance than their Taiwanese, South Korean, and Japanese counterparts. That's because these other countries are democratic republics with a tradition of free-market principles, meaning that they know they'll sell more products when said products please their customers. Basic capitalism always works this way.
3) CCW bikes are currently the best China bikes on the market. Despite this, they are still China bikes. If you know not to expect a SYM, Hyosung, or Honda right out of the box then you'll save yourself a lot of frustration.
4) If you don't have a reliable dealer nearby, or do not enjoy tinkering and are not mechanically proficient, I personally suggest you get something other than a CCW moto.
BMW allows some of their engines to be built in China because those factories are quality controlled by BMW German employees; all the Japanese Big Four allow various parts (including some engines) to be built in China because those factories are quality controlled by Japanese employees. Cleveland Cyclewerks allows their motorcycles to be built in China because the factory is quality controlled by CCW American employees. But here's the rub, man: CCW is a moto manufacturer building to the lowest price point on purpose. They're new--they have to. So expect the quality to reflect this fact.Last edited by nicholastanguma; 03-17-2012 at 12:07 AM.
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